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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #18 on: Friday 02 June 17 09:00 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has a military record (4 pages - but not much detail) for an Emmanuel Cattle, born 1886.

 

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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #19 on: Friday 02 June 17 09:23 BST (UK) »
Cant find a Marriage for John/ Margaret either ???
Thanks, trish1120. I have Thomas's birth cert and it names Emanuel and Phoebe. I'll have to order a copy of the marriage certs for John and Margaret and Emanuel and Phoebe. There's a story here!

Re. Emanuel and Phoebe's marriage cert it may (no guarantee) be available, off shelf, in my local archives - depends on their having married in one of the local Parish Churches (Registry Office marriages not covered). Will see what I can find this afternoon. 

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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #20 on: Friday 02 June 17 09:44 BST (UK) »
Baptism - All Saints Church, Kilvey (Swansea)

Born - 19th Jan 1886; Bap'd - 10th March 1886; Name - John Hill Bale; Parents' Names - Elizabeth Bale; Abode - Foxhole; Quality, Trade, Profession - not completed

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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #21 on: Friday 02 June 17 09:58 BST (UK) »
Burials - St. Peter's, Pontardawe, Parish of Llangiwg

John Cattle; Abode - Herbert Street, Pontardawe; Date - 22nd Sep 1903; age 50 years 


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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #22 on: Friday 02 June 17 10:07 BST (UK) »
Excellent find hanes tulu for the Birth/Baptism :)
Saved 9 pounds there!
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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #23 on: Friday 02 June 17 10:10 BST (UK) »
Did Margaret (re)marry in 1912 - reg dist Pontardawe?

She didn't include her marital status on the 1911 Census return - although a 3rd person has later added "married".

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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 03 June 17 00:55 BST (UK) »
Baptism - All Saints Church, Kilvey (Swansea)

Born - 19th Jan 1886; Bap'd - 10th March 1886; Name - John Hill Bale; Parents' Names - Elizabeth Bale; Abode - Foxhole; Quality, Trade, Profession - not completed

Thank's for the info. Where did you find this? I have a copy of his birth cert and it shows he was born on 23 Mar 1886, 68 Foxhill Rd, Llansamlet Lower. I found his baptism record online (a photo of the page) and it shows he was baptised on 28 Apr 1886 at Llansamlet. Can there be two of them?
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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 03 June 17 01:00 BST (UK) »
A very warm welcome to Rootschat

Welsh newspapers on line   http://newspapers.library.wales

click on link and put "emannel cattle" in search field (note spelling and include "   " as part of search key). The snippet returned confirms the adoption.

At the moment clicking on headline "THEFT OF SILVER AT ALLTWEN" delivers original newspaper page but the article (last entry in end column) is not easy to read. Also tab down to last entry in column "37 articles on this page"

This article is amazing! It looks like he was charged 6 days after his son was born. His son was Thomas John Cattle (my Grandfather) and he was born 2 May 1905. The article also proves that John Hill Bale was Emanuel Cattle and that was the missing link! Thank you so much.
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Feltham - Pontyprydd
Johnson - Essex
Burke, Attis - Plymouth, Devon
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Re: CATTLE, emanuel and phoebe
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 03 June 17 01:02 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has a military record (4 pages - but not much detail) for an Emmanuel Cattle, born 1886.

Thanks. I did find a record for him and I will revisit it very soon. I'm interested in his military history, too.
Cattle, Hopkins, Bale -Pontardawe, Yeovil
Feltham - Pontyprydd
Johnson - Essex
Burke, Attis - Plymouth, Devon
Green - Plymouth