Ordering birth cert

[softly softly]

Sinann, I personally believe this to be the birth registration of Christopher. Whilst it records his father as Peter who's occ is gas labourer, this ties in with being a stoker which is recorded elsewhere. The address Erne st also ties in well with the baptism record. I know the birth date is out by 3 days but with mothers maiden name Doran am as certain as I can be. Thanks

[hasta]

If you check the civil birth of Thomas the youngest 3rd May 1891
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02390/1891650.pdf it gives an address at 22 Queens Sq.
(unfortunately it now gives mother as DUNNE but the baptism image for St Andrews is online on Ancestry and that has the same DOB of 3rd May 1891.)
Workhouse records in 1893 show that both Richard and Christopher Byrne (aged 6 and 4) of 22 Queen's Sq entered the workhouse for medical treatment and were to be returned to their mother - a widow.
This looks to be Thomas Byrne (the father) death - same address 22 Queen's Square and he is listed as a stoker.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06064/4728918.pdf
Richard turns up in Workhouse records again in 1903 - a nurse child at a farm in Knockmitten with a Mary Tierney - it is found that he is "working with son on the land" and it is ordered that he be
returned to schooling.
I'd think that Mary has already died as well at this stage - so may be why Christopher gives brother Richard as NOK and not his mother when he joins the army.
All seems to fit - but no clincher !!
Is there an address for Richard in the Army records ?

EDIT - would have made more sense if I'd posted on the related thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=771698.0

[dathai]

Most likely Mary Tierney at Fox and Geese Commons which is where Knockmitten is situated just off Killeen Rd
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Clondalkin/Fox_and_Geese_Commons/1283139/

Thomas Byrne and Mary Doran ,Erne St
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10803/5939895.pdf

[aghadowey]

It's not a good idea to keep starting new topics but if you do need to do so please include link(s) to previous topic(s) to avoid needless duplication and confusion.

Also another topic here-
Christopher Byrne (Armed Forces)

[dathai]

Thomas parents Richard and Mary decd in 1887
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633500#page/86/mode/1up

[softly softly]

Hi, can't thank everyone for the info supplied. 2 points, Richard's address on Christopher's enlistment in 1905 is as per 1901 census. With regard to workhouse record for 1893 can this be viewed online at all as this is a real clincher for me. Thanks

[hasta]

Hi. The workhouse records (South Dublin Union) are online on FindMyPast which is a subscription site, though you can also buy credits or they do free trials as well. If the army records give Richard at the same address as the 1901 census - that's a clincher ! 

[softly softly]

Many thanks to all for help in this. Any ideas as to where Christopher is in1901 census and what happened to brother Thomas (1891)-??
John

[hasta]

Sorry no. Christopher was discharged from the workhouse 25 Jan 1897 so possibly to his mother (who seems to have died by 1901) I'd think he was either a nurse child or in an institution by 1901. Also haven't followed up on Thomas but I'd start looking in the deaths. I'll have a look see if he turns up in the workhouse records tomorrow.