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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 June 17 11:11 BST (UK) »
I had had a good luck for possible Parents for John and his Siblings yesterday.

I also tried to find a John Woods, Publican, on pages and pages of the 1841 Census!!

No Luck.

But have just found on Anc a MARY Woods age 20 marrying 1839 Sedgefield. Father JOHN, Occp Gardner*
Think I found her Bapt to John/Susan 1819 Syderstone, Father a Labourer.

Also a LUCRETIA Woods Marriage 1842 from memory, Father JOHN, Gardener
Tracing Lucretia Elmer in 1851 she is born c 1812 but her Mother is Elizabeth Woods and living with them.

So a very difficult one ::)
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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 June 17 11:22 BST (UK) »
Anc has the 1st Marriage of John Jnr and his residence is Heigham, Norfolk.

Now 1851 Census in Heigham we have;
John WOOD, 66 (1785), Widower, Gardener, born Blofield

Just a possible.
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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 June 17 11:50 BST (UK) »
Did John remarry again?

1881 we have;
John Woods, 63
Frances Woods, 48
Alice Warden, 16, Neice



1871 Census
John Wadels, 54, Head, Mar, Coach Painter, born Shampshire****
Frances Wadels, 39, Wife, Mar
Frederick Wadels, 24, Son, CarpentEr
George J Wadels, 17, Son, Confectioner
Maria Warsler, 74, Mother in Law
Francek Green, 18, Step/Daug, Silk Weaver
Allice Woaels, 5, Neice
Matilda House, 18, Lodger

Have added correction on Anc.

1861 Census
John Woods, 43, Head, Widr, Coach Painter, born Norwich
Frederick Woods, 14
Mary Ann Woods, 13, Daug, born Norwich****
George Woods, 7

1851 Census
John Woods, 34
Mary Ann Woods, 38
Georgeanna Woods, 9
Frederic John Woods, 4

***Need to track Mary Ann in 1851 Census
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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 June 17 12:04 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann as you probably know is with her Stimpson Grandparents in 1851.

Also nothing on-line that I can see for Johns Marriage to Frances Green 1867 ::)
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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 June 17 12:12 BST (UK) »
Did John remarry again?

1881 we have;
John Woods, 63
Frances Woods, 48
Alice Warden, 16, Neice



1871 Census
John Wadels, 54, Head, Mar, Coach Painter, born Shampshire****
Frances Wadels, 39, Wife, Mar
Frederick Wadels, 24, Son, CarpentEr
George J Wadels, 17, Son, Confectioner
Maria Warsler, 74, Mother in Law
Francek Green, 18, Step/Daug, Silk Weaver
Allice Woaels, 5, Neice
Matilda House, 18, Lodger

Have added correction on Anc.

1861 Census
John Woods, 43, Head, Widr, Coach Painter, born Norwich
Frederick Woods, 14
Mary Ann Woods, 13, Daug, born Norwich****
George Woods, 7

1851 Census
John Woods, 34
Mary Ann Woods, 38
Georgeanna Woods, 9
Frederic John Woods, 4

***Need to track Mary Ann in 1851 Census

Wow thank you so much Trish! Yes John Woods did, he married Frances Green b. abt 1832 who I believe is the daughter of Jonas Warder and Maria Warder nee Earl b1797. I have suddenly realised earlier this morning Frances' daughter Frances M Green living with the Woods family in 1871 age 18 and stepsister to George James Woods age 17 is probably the same Frances Maria Green daughter of Charles Green who then married George James Woods on 22 Apr 1878! Frances M Green was living with her unmarried great aunt Hannah Warder b1787 in 1861 census, who I think was Jonas Warder's sister which fits with this scenario. So it seems my great great grandparents were also step siblings!! This story just gets more and more complicated!

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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 June 17 12:15 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann as you probably know is with her Stimpson Grandparents in 1851.

Also nothing on-line that I can see for Johns Marriage to Frances Green 1867 ::)

Yes I have Mary Ann there, thank you. I'm guessing John and Frances married in 1864 or 1867 but I haven't worked out how to narrow it down yet so I know which certificate to get.

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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 04 June 17 12:20 BST (UK) »
Here you go Cert details from FreeBMD

Sept 1867, Norwich, 4b 181
John WOODS/Frances GREEN on same page

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Re: Searching for marriage Woods/Stimpson pre-1837
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 04 June 17 15:18 BST (UK) »
Do you have any thoughts on how to get further back from John Woods' parents John and Mary as they seem to be a dead end.

Afraid not - a tricky one.   John Woods senior (gardener) died just after the 1851 census - buried 26/5/1851 Heigham aged 65 (per Bishops Transcripts).   His wife Mary clearly died between 1841 and 1851 but can't find an obvious burial for her that is online.

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