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John FRAZER, birth, death, marriage, anything
« on: Sunday 04 June 17 05:02 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone,  I am trying to find ANY information at all about  JOHN FRAZER.  I have these clues to go on.......birth about 1793......death 12 jan 1871 Lisnafeedy Armagh.  I have taken these clues from a tree on ancestry but they are not backed up with any certificates etc.  I am hoping someone may be able to help me discover any information at all to try and help me.......The JOHN FRAZER i am looking for did have a daughter named Ann Jane Frazer born abt 1833 if that is of any help.  All help is greatly appreciated,   Thank you from Heather

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Re: JOHN FRAZER, BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE, ANYTHING
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 04 June 17 07:44 BST (UK) »
There are a couple of John's on the will index but not the above John
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Re: JOHN FRAZER, BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE, ANYTHING
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 04 June 17 09:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you

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Re: JOHN FRAZER, BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE, ANYTHING
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 04 June 17 10:39 BST (UK) »
A William Frazier and Mrs. James Frazier in Lisnafeedy townland 1833 Tithe Applotment Book-
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/armagh/tithe-applotments/eglish-parish.php#.WTPTsuvyvIU

At the time of Griffith's Valuation there were John Frazer and William Frazer in the same townland.
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Re: JOHN FRAZER, BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE, ANYTHING
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 June 17 11:28 BST (UK) »
thank you

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Re: JOHN FRAZER, BIRTH, DEATH, MARRIAGE, ANYTHING
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 June 17 20:05 BST (UK) »
The John and William in Griffiths remain there until 1905 when William's land is in the names of Lucy and Elizabeth, and John remains in the name of John.  This suggests that this is not your John, but perhaps two sons who were the main tenants in the original Griffiths valuation done about 1864 in Co. Armagh.

Wills online show that Lucy was a spinster, so likely a sister to William, and she leaves it to another John.   There is a will for a James Frazer in 1903 in Lisnafeedy who names having his residence with his brother, John, but has his farm in the townland of Eglish. He leaves everything to John.

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Re: John FRAZER, birth, death, marriage, anything
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 June 17 23:27 BST (UK) »
I have a lot of Lisnafeedy Frazers in my database but not the Anne Jane born 1833. Can you tell me what you have for her and I'll see if I can line her up with a family?

I also have all the other Frazer families I've found from Eglish and Clonfeacle Parishes.

I have several Johns and an intermarriage so it's a bit complicated...

I believe these Frazers went to Eglish Parish Church which has surviving records going back a lot further than most Irish churches and they're on LDS film.

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Re: John FRAZER, birth, death, marriage, anything
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 June 17 23:32 BST (UK) »

It might be better to describe your research as being the origins of Ann Jane Frazer born abt 1833.

What do you know about her. If it is her marriage, can you give information on her marriage record.

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Re: John FRAZER, birth, death, marriage, anything
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 June 17 05:44 BST (UK) »
Ok,  I really dont know much about ann jane,  she married william cullen in 1856 marlacoo? armagh. Their children, mary jane, david, william, ellen and margaret i have found so far.  maryjane married robert kirkland and went to america. david married margaret jeffers stayed in ireland as far as i know. william died before 1901 as his wife was still in census in ireland, her name was ruth cullen nee mcdonell. ellen married joseph flack/fleck ended up in scotland,  margaret married augustus dale and ended up in scotland as well.    several trees on ancestry suggest ann jane came from america but these trees conflict with her having different mothers and have no certificate back ups.......the census and marriage says she born armagh............i'm lost with her. she died before her huband, he died 1911, she died 1906