John FRAZER, birth, death, marriage, anything

[heatherwalsh]

yes her marriage says her father john,...........

[ansimi]

Does her marriage record say she was from Lisnafeedy? Marriages were usually in the bride's church and Marlacoo is an odd fit.

[heatherwalsh]

i cant find the cert.............grrrrr

[heatherwalsh]

everything so far is centering around ahorey, richill, mullavilly, bainbridge ??

[heatherwalsh]

i am so sorry, i cant find any of my certs, which is very upsetting as i have moved house.......i hope i can find them.   i remember a spelling of frizell or frizzell  if that is of any help, this was on one of her childrens deaths

[aghadowey]

Ok,  I really dont know much about ann jane,  she married william cullen in 1856 marlacoo? armagh. Their children, mary jane, david, william, ellen and margaret i have found so far.  maryjane married robert kirkland and went to america. david married margaret jeffers stayed in ireland as far as i know. william died before 1901 as his wife was still in census in ireland, her name was ruth cullen nee mcdonell. ellen married joseph flack/fleck ended up in scotland,  margaret married augustus dale and ended up in scotland as well.    several trees on ancestry suggest ann jane came from america but these trees conflict with her having different mothers and have no certificate back ups.......the census and marriage says she born armagh............i'm lost with her. she died before her huband, he died 1911, she died 1906

To save anyone else searching for Cullen family here are links to some previous topics (not sure if I have found them all)-

Some previous threads on Cullen family-
cullen family armagh (Armagh)
nellie hyland nee cullen (Larnarkshire)
any idea's (Lanarkshire)
all i need is ?? ?? (Lanarkshire)
looking for help with a birth (Armagh)
cullen look up please 1901 scotland (Lanarkshire)
william cullen look up please...1901 scotland (Lanarkshire)
1911 lookup request please (Lanarkshire)
kirkland family look up please (Lanarkshire)
kirkland census look up please (Lanarkshire)
birth details armagh (Armagh)
help finding deaths please (Lanarkshire)
census look ups please (USA)
spare credits ?? ? look up please (Lanarkshire)

and this one from Sept.2016-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=755693.msg6052635#msg6052635

[aghadowey]

If John Frazer lived at Lisnafeedy most of his life then it looks as though the church records don't go back far enough to show baptisms (and possibly marriages) for any children-
http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0218 (Eglish parish baptisms & marriages from 1862)
There don't seem to be earlier registers available-
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0218&parish=Eglish

Brides usually marry from home/their own church but you say Ann Jane Frazer married Marlacoo (which is the other side of Armagh). If that is correct then either she was living away from home or her family lived in that area-

[aghadowey]

Extracted marriage record for Ann Jane Frazer (born c1833) m.(1856 Mullabrack) William Cullins-
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXG-NT9

? Jane Frazer (born 1833 Eglish Parish) parents John Frazer & Sarah
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5VW-MQV

Other possibilites to explore from LDS database- and these are just that- only possibilities based on father's name and area-

John Frazer m.(1866) Jane Steenson
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG82-ZQ8
Elizabeth Frazer m.(1869) William Frazer
   https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGZZ-BTJ

SUBMITTED family tree here- perhaps this is where you've gotten your information from?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:M7BX-14X

[heatherwalsh]

wow, thank you and no i have never seen that family tree before.........now i have a possible mother for ann jane.......thank you