Disembarkation record 1634

[Llanfihangel]

Thanks horselydown86

The (second?) ship carrying soldiers to Flanders is where a Wm Madd?? (possibly elder brother of Alexander Maddox) is what I am interested in...
I am sending the whole page for you to look at.. I have outlined the Wm Madd?? entry. The record is from the Port of London 1635
I'd be interested in your comments, but please don't spend any time deciphering the whole document

Thanks
Llanfi

[horselydown86]

It's pretty clear that this surname is Maddin.

The letter x in this handwriting has a long tail beneath the line, as can be seen in your first clip for Alexander.

[Llanfihangel]

Hello Horselydown86

Yes, that's what I thought too...

Many thanks to you and all the experts on Rootschat!

Llanfi
 

[Bookbox]

there is a record fro Alexander Maddox age 22 on the Abraham leaving for Maryland the next year (1635) ... (There is another record of him arriving in Maryland that year) I am wondering how he managed being a soldier going from London to Europe in 1634 and from London to Maryland next year (1635)

I don't know if you've read the notes on FindMyPast about the records in this series E 157 ? They're quite informative, perhaps provided by the National Archives, who hold the originals.
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/britain-registers-of-licences-to-pass-beyond-the-seas-1573-1677

Amongst other things, they offer a reminder that these records use the old-style calendar:
"Researchers should remember that these early records are dated by the old calendar, when March 1634, for example, would be immediately followed the next month by April 1635."

So any embarkation dates you have before 25 March 1634 will actually be 1635 in new-style. This brings them much closer to the date you have for your man emigrating to America in October 1635.

At the risk of throwing a spanner in the works, have you considered whether the soldier might be a different Alexander Maddox?

[Llanfihangel]

Hello Bookbox!
Nice to see you again!
Please have a look at clip 1 on page 1 to see the date... The transcription has it as 4 March 1634...
Is that right, and would the record be for 4 March 1634 or 4 March 1635?
I am jumping to the conclusion that the two records are for the same Alexander Maddox and the idea that he might have returned to England after the peace treaty of Prague is a stretch.
And so may be the FTDNA data of sharing a rare haplotype R27900!!!
I think this is where fantasy starts and facts fade away... The reference you sent me is very useful too...
Cheers, and all the best!
Llanfi
 

[horselydown86]

. The transcription has it as 4 March 1634...
Is that right, and would the record be for 4 March 1634 or 4 March 1635?

The transcription has it as 4 March 1634 because that is what was written.

4 March 1634 (Old Style) = 4 March 1635 (New Style).

As Bookbox wrote:

So any embarkation dates you have before 25 March 1634 will actually be 1635 in new-style. This brings them much closer to the date you have for your man emigrating to America in October 1635.

If we stick to the Old Style calendar, it breaks down like this:

21 days after 4 March 1634 is 25 March 1635, which is the start of dates in 1635.

October 1635 begins 6 months and 7 days after 25 March 1635.

So Bookbox's point is that his emigration to America on any date in October 1635 is within 8 months of time elapsed since the record in your first post.