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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 18:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that dawnsh - neither of those other 2 names seem to be related ... Would a public grave only contain just 3 people?

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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 20:29 BST (UK) »
they don't normally, there might be a good reason.

I'll try and phone the cemetery tomorrow.
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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 20:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks dawnsh ... I was rather hoping when you said originally that JSME was in another plot with 2 others that perhaps the elusive Olive might be one of the others, with her name misspelled or similar problem!!!!  Anyway, no such joy, but perhaps the cemetery might be able to shed some light on those other two - if you get a chance to call them - pls don't worry if not.  Nina

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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 20:52 BST (UK) »
Hi lizdb - thanks for your observation re the probate listing.  If it was in Administration, does it literally mean thre never was a Will, or that there was a problem/objection with dishing out the estate and that it will go to Probate at a later date? Pls excuse my ignorance ...


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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 21:10 BST (UK) »
No, it just means there wasn't a Will.

If there IS a will, then the Will will name executors to carry the wishes contained within the Will. When the person dies, then those executors apply for Probate, which when granted gives them the power to access the deceased's estate and distribute it according to the Will.
If there isn't a Will, then someone has to apply for Letters of Administration to enable them to access the deceaseds estate and distribute to the next of kin. Often when there isn't a Will this isn't always needed, if the deceased only had cash or small amounts the Bank may release it without, but usually Building Societies and other places would require Letters of Administration.
That is a fairly simplistic overview.
If there is a Will but the named executors have died or do not wish to act, the someone else may apply for Administration - that would be entered in the index as Administration With Will. I am sure there are other more complicated scenarios too.
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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 21:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for explaining that - very helpful! Nina

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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 21:17 BST (UK) »
Alick served in WWI and received a victory medal. Can;t find his service records though. He was a gunner in the Royal Garrison Artillery    SR/7138, 282138  (had served previously as well, signing up in 1890)

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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 21:27 BST (UK) »
The Olive Hyde who dies in Hackney in 1963 was living in a home and was a widow. Probate to her bank, so no clues there

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Re: My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 21:33 BST (UK) »


Probate index entry:

Alexis George Hyde otherwise Alick George otherwise Alec George, of Plenty House Whitchurch Canonicorium Bridport Dorset died 17 MAy 1949. Administration 30 March 1950 to Olive Hyde widow and Albert Hyde retired dresser.

Shame it is "Administration" rather then Probate, so therefore no Will.

Interesting that Olive applied for probate as they don't appear to be living together in 1939.
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