My trail has gone cold with Olive Jone Winifred Constantina EDNEY!!!

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1939 just means they weren't in the same place on enumeration day - not necessarily they weren't together

[Chris Doran]

I've put a photo of the grave here from pictures I took some time ago. I've never come across the Bell grave No 327 and it's not listed in the NWKFHS MIs for Brockley & Ladywell, so perhaps it's unmarked, though that list is by no means complete. They only cut down the vegetation at B&L once a year, and by now it'll be shoulder high, so I don't intend to make a special visit to look any time soon.

As to why baby John and Mary Crossland were buried with an apparent stranger, I've read of a touching custom of burying children with an adult so as to be "looked after" and not left all alone, but I don't know when this ceased. I have certainly found duplicated plot numbers at Brockley & Ladywell (not just associated with its being a merger of 3 cemeteries), so that remains another possible explanation, but as the 3 burials in 327 are round the same date, I tend to discount it in this case.

[Relsearcher]

Thanks for that Chris ... Good clear shots of the grave!  Also, that's very interesting re the custom you read about children being buried with an adult so they are 'looked after' ... I will look into that further.  Do you know which month of the year the council clears the vegetation?  I rarely get to London these days but if I want to tie a visit to the cemetery in to a future trip, it would be handy to actually be able to see the graves!  Many thanks, Nina

[Kiwi Kathy]

Hi Nina,
Very excited to tell you that the Olive Jone Winifred Constantina Edney is my Great Aunt. My grandfather is Kenelm Oscar Alphonso Edney. My father is Eric Edney.
I was born in New Zealand where I am still living.
I have information on Olive J. that I can share with you. Although I have only been able to go so far. I can't find any information on my Grandfather Kenelm. I have searched high and low for a death certificate and have had no luck so far.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers Kathy (Kathleen ) Edney

[groom]

In case you don’t have it already Kenelm Edney, an engineer born 1878, sailed for New Zealand on the 30th May 1906, with his wife on board the Corinthic. They were heading for Auckland.

[Ladyhawk]

I have information on Olive J. that I can share with you. Although I have only been able to go so far.

I can't find any information on my Grandfather Kenelm. I have searched high and low for a death certificate and have had no luck so far.

Hello and a warm welcome to Rootschat Kiwi Kathy 

Not that this helps finding Kenelm's death/burial record 

His birth record from GRO indexes which gives his mmn

EDNEY, KENELEM  OSCAR ALPHONSE   mmn BOWKETT
GRO Reference: 1877  D Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION  Volume 01D  Page 1064

Marriage of parents
22 Jun 1871 Oxenhall, Gloucestershire
John Edney, ironmonger, father Thomas, smith
Olive Bowkett father Sidney Canal Agent
Witnesses Sidney & Kate Bowkett

He can be found with his parents John & Olive and siblings on
1881 address 2 Cousins Cottages Sydenham Rd Piece: 736 Folio:   54 Page Number:   19

1891 address Sydenham Road Piece:   523 Folio:   80
Kenelm is with his parents and four siblings

Olive Edney of 1 Longton Grove Terrace Taylor’s Lane Sydenham Kent widow died 29 Dec 1900
Probate 22 Feb 1901 to John Sidney Bowkett Edney blacksmith and Kenelm Oscar Alphonse Edney Cycle manufacturer

1901 address 1 Longton Grove Ter. Piece: 558 Folio: 6 Page number: 3
Kenelm living with his siblings  occ cycle maker born Sydenham Kent

Headstone of his parents John & Olive Edney & his siblings
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/180364419/john-edney

Was Kenelm known as Kenneth in NZ?

Residence Place:   New Zealand
District:   Wanganui Region or Province:   Manawatu-Wanganui

1911 Kenneth Oscar Alfonso & Minnie Edney  address 49 Plymouth Street, Cycle Engineer

1914 Kenneth & Minnie Edney’s address 89 Keith Street

1922 Kenneth & Minnie Edney’s address 23 Churton St.,

1925 Kenneth & Minnie Edney’s address 42 Plymouth St

1928 Kenneth & Minnie Edney address 10 Bell Street

NO Kenneth/Kenelm with his wife for these years

1931 Minnie Edney (married) address 58 Keith Street

1935 Minnie Edney  (married)address 67 Keith Street
also  J K Edney, labourer

1938 Minnie (Married) same address above
also E C Edney, labourer

[Kiwi Kathy]

Ladyhawke. Thank you so much for this information much of which I don't have. Can now add to my ancestry tree and fill in some blanks.
No further information on Kenelm. I will just keep digging and hope for the best.

[Relsearcher]

Hello Kathy! Nina here! Sorry for delay in getting back to you, I was away. I will send you a PM outlining my relationship to Olive, and would love to hear what you can tell me! Nina