John williams Birmingham.

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Hi keyboard, Very strange, what i find stranger is James and amelia had a son in 1915 when they were both in thier 40s and at the time had moved to a tiny hamlet in worcestershire called Cotheridge. They stayed for a few years before moving back to Birmingham. I wonder if Ann Rowles/Williams went with them and perhaps she was the mother. Ann never married untill she was 35.
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  What does the birth registration give for the maiden name of the son born 1915?
Keyboard86

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mmn is Veness but that just may be a cover up.

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mmn is Veness but that just may be a cover up.

You are referring to Bertie registered March qtr 1916 Worcester,  why a "Cover up" why not use Williams if Ann?
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Not sure maybe because they were going back to birmingham. Just puzzled how they ended up in such a small place.

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Not sure maybe because they were going back to birmingham. Just puzzled how they ended up in such a small place.

Purchase of the birth certificate of Bertie would answer all questions as to parents, address etc?!
Still wondering why Elizabeth 10 and Edgar 8 stayed with there father and what happened to them, in fact when/where did John die if in Workhouse 1911?!
Keyboard86

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I have Berties birth cert and it states mmn Veness father James Rowles. as you say why leave Elizabeth and Edgar and what happened to them. Btw Bertie was my Father,
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  And the full name of the mother eg Amelia Veness?
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Now to try to work out John/Elizabeth/Edgar from 1901?'
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Hi again,  Edgar Williams born 23rd March 1892 baptism 6th July 1892 Deritend, St Gabriel Father John occ Gas Chandler Maker Mother Amelia
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