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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 03:31 BST (UK) »
I guess it depends what I'm researching to be honest & I can spend a lot of hours on 'google' reading different things I find which may lead me onto a different search if I find something of interest mentioned  ;)

Not sure if you have this or if it's relevant to your research but the surname isn't 'common' i'e. thought I would post it anyway, just incase  :-\

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB64-B93

Annie

Thanks for this. I will keep this in mind. The 'Cloudsleys' are a new discovery for me so still researching them. I have another thread going about them in the Angus section here.
Though my Mary Cloudsley's parents are Andrew Cloudsley and Ann(a/e) Air/Ayre.

From what I've found out about them in Scotland that most of them were concentrated around the Montrose area. They have a very uncommon name from what I've found out so far. Some googling seemed to indicate that the name originates from a places called Cloudesley Farm in Warwickshire. Whether or not this relates to my branch or not is impossible/difficult to prove. It certainly doesn't feel like a typically Scottish name.

I've seen it spelled various ways; Cludsly, Clowdsly, Cloudslie.. the list is pretty long.  ::) ;D

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Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 03:47 BST (UK) »
Another to hold onto;

Check 8th from top....very coincidental  :-\

http://www.glosgen.co.uk/records/minchmarr7.htm


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 03:57 BST (UK) »
Another to hold onto;

Check 8th from top....very coincidental  :-\

http://www.glosgen.co.uk/records/minchmarr7.htm


Annie

It certainly is. I'll keep this in mind. Quite puzzling.

From SP I did a search on the surname for births in the entirity of Scotland prior to 1700. Only three males came up as having children in Scotland prior to then. They were;
William, John and Robert. All having children in either Ferry port on Craig or Montrose between 1634 and 1661. I wonder if it's something to do with Montrose being a port? I think I'll be doing a lot of googling tomorrow when I'm more awake about the history of the port of Montrose and perhaps what significance it had with incomers, sailors in wars etc. It just feels like this family appeared out of nowhere in Scotland.
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Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 04:04 BST (UK) »
Surname Evans on the list too  :)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 04:17 BST (UK) »
Do you have all the Evans/Cloudsley children?

Here's more variants;

Cludsley/Cloudesly


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 11:54 BST (UK) »
Do you have all the Evans/Cloudsley children?

Here's more variants;

Cludsley/Cloudesly


Annie

I have the following children for James Evans and Mary Cloudsley;


Ann Addison b.1820
Alexander b.1822
William b.1823
Jane b.1829
Mary b.1829

Don't think the last two are twins, probably more likely they are a year apart.

Interestingly James Evans' wife Mary Cloudsley had a brother named Giles b.1785.  Not a particularly common name around the Angus area for the time period I think?
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Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 June 17 13:20 BST (UK) »
I read Alexander's occupation as Fire stone quarrier, and it could just as easily be that. Fire stone, which includes some types of sandstone, is stone that can resist great heat and it is used to line fireplaces, furnaces and ovens. The fire box of the stove in my parents' kitchen was lined with firestone.
The initial Q of Quarrier incidentally, is written in the style I was taught at school in the 1950s/60s.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Isle of Lewis
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland

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Re: Alexander Evans' occupation please. 1864 Death Cert.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 June 17 13:34 BST (UK) »
I read Alexander's occupation as Fire stone quarrier, and it could just as easily be that. Fire stone, which includes some types of sandstone, is stone that can resist great heat and it is used to line fireplaces, furnaces and ovens. The fire box of the stove in my parents' kitchen was lined with firestone.
The initial Q of Quarrier incidentally, is written in the style I was taught at school in the 1950s/60s.

That could be possible too since the area in which he lived is rich in sandstone. Very interesting indeed.

Regarding the Q that's also interesting to hear, it seems quite unusual. I'd never seen it before, mind you I was at school in the late 80s and 90s so these styles are a little lost on me at times.  :)
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Father's kit; RY1336515
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Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie