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Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« on: Wednesday 07 June 17 15:50 BST (UK) »
Found inside the lid of a beer stein owned by a cavalryman by the name of Pfund, from the Kindom of Wurttemberg, stationed in Ludwigsberg Castle in 1883:



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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 22:18 BST (UK) »
Well crossed keys denote St. Peter because he was given the keys to the kingdom of heaven.
The padlock/heart shape below I`m not sure about but the unusual crown reminds me of something.St. Peter was the first Pope.
.I think  the Holy Roman Emperor  Charlemagne , sometime about the ninth century  but some Rootschatter may be more accurate.

What is the object it is on, it looks like Pewter.?
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P.S.I did not read the post, now I have one thought I had seems a bit likely and that is The Kingdom of Bavaria. I gave away all my books on Ludwig and his castles but a little bell is ringing
=it is that crown-,the family were Wittelsbachs, a notoriously mentally unstable family.
Sisi, the Empress Elisabeth of Austria and mother of Crown Prince Rupert of Mayerling notoriety  wqs Ludwig`s first cousin
How interesting-hope you solve the mystery.  Viktoria.

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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 23:01 BST (UK) »
I wouldn't call this a coat-of-arms, but I know what you meant! ;D

I think a religious order of some sort?
Maybe Trappist beer?! ;D

Looks like an orb at the top.
Then a crown of some description (floral, maybe?).
Then a bunch of keys.
The 2 big crossed keys.
Finally a leather bucket? (not sure on this one! ;D)
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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 June 17 23:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies. It's a glass beer stein, with a pewter lid that has a ceramic insert. The painting is on the ceramic.



The crest (or whatever you want to call it) doesn't appear to have anything to do with the cavalryman's regiment, or to Wurttemburg's royal family, or to Ludwigsburg - the city or the castle.

The crest on top is that of Wurttemburg - no mystery there!

I suppose the crown COULD be King of Wurttemberg's? The drawing does look a little like the real thing, though not much:






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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 June 17 09:20 BST (UK) »
Is it just the factory mark?

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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 June 17 10:28 BST (UK) »
Crossed keys are the symbol of Regensburg.
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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 June 17 11:50 BST (UK) »
THAT is SERIOUS BLING!!!!!

OOOOOH those emeralds.
 Yes,  Regensburg is in  Wurttenburg, on the Danube.Not a million miles from Munich and Nuremburg but a separate kingdom from Bavaria.
St. Peter`s keys are the other way up , but it  struck me his symbol was crossed keys.
 What an interesting item to own. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 June 17 13:45 BST (UK) »
Steins can be difficult to trace as people, can have them
made as a individual piece.
Is there a stamp on the base of the stein.

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Re: Does anyone recognize this German coat of arms?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 June 17 14:07 BST (UK) »
St Peter usually has a key crossed with a sword?

Also, in heraldry, keys are invariably handles down, business part uppermost.

Nearly all popes have had crossed keys in their c-o-a, but one is silver, and the other is gold.
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