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John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« on: Sunday 11 June 17 15:07 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I am stuck and would appreciate some help please.
I do have an Anc.sub but not worldwide, I have tried using Canadian  sites and also Familysearch but think I have exhausted my options for now.

I am looking for any further Census information, Marriage Certificates,  Death Certificates. Electoral Roll maybe.?
Jack Thomas Ford b c1875 Dowlais Wales.  Father Luke Ford.   
I have found John in the 1911 census and in the 1916 census he is in Saskatchewan, district 19.Kindersley.  together with  brother Frank.
I have Johns death certificate , died Oct 9th 1960 in Victoria found online.  His second wife Nellie (Cooke) is the informant.  On Family search I can find the marriage transcript (but not a certificate which would be great to have if available)
Also on British Colombia Death Registrations I find Mary Ford, died 9 March 1938  (Victoria) transcript.  I have never been able to find her marriage to John Ford.
I also found John and Mary on the SS Duchess of Richmond, Sailing from Liverpool 21 March 1930. 
John T Ford, born Dowlais, Age 55.   If in Canada Before :  1905 - (22 Nov)1929.  Kyle Sask.   
Mary Ford,   born Dowlais,  Age 56,  In Canada 1909 - (Nov) 1929.  Kyle Sask.


In Library & Archives Canada, I found Land grants for both John T. and Frank
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/land/land-grants-western-canada-1870-1930/Pages/list.aspx?Names=Ford&Range=16&Meridian=W3&
They look as if they could be  adjoining land . 
Are wills/probate available to search for Canada,?Johns death occurred in Victoria so he obviously wasn't farming any more.
Lots of questions - sorry?

Thank you,
Newbie

(Edited as realised I was asking too many questions!)
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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 June 17 17:18 BST (UK) »

Thank You!

A Marriage Certificate for John Thomas Ford and Nellie Cook. Thats great.
Newbie :)
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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 June 17 18:30 BST (UK) »
Mary's obit (not overly helpful)  http://archive.org/stream/dailycolonist0338uvic_7#page/n4/mode/1up

It does give their address, though, so you might be able to track them through the directories to see when they first show up in Victoria?

Directories: http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/


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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 June 17 18:43 BST (UK) »


Hello
Many thanks for that, thats interesting .  It did say they had resided "here" for 2 years. But I will look at the directory link.

That was a super link to the paper archive thank you.
Pauline
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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 June 17 08:11 BST (UK) »
bbart  many thanks again for the links especially to the directories Ive had great success and tracked John and Mary and then Nellie over the years.
Would really like to find him and Mary in a later census if possible.

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 09:12 BST (UK) »
Could this be them?

1921 Lacadena, Kindersley, Saskatchewan Census
Jack Ford, age 46 (born c1875), England.  Immigrated 1906.  Welsh.  Farmer
Mary Ford, age 48 (born c1873), England.  Immigrated 1906.  Welsh

Update:  Listed two entries above them:
Frank Ford, Laborer, Single, age 35, immigrated 1906, Welsh
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 09:34 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you already have Frank Ford's estate file?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PPF-9KY?i=1&cc=1918293
He passed away in 1929.

He is possibly buried in White Bear Cemetery, White Bear, Saskatchewan
Found on FindAGrave - https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 12:23 BST (UK) »
Hello Lisa

Yes thats them!!      1921 Census   - Thank you so much   and you found Frank !  I just haven't been able to find anything on him at all. He disappeared , I had searched for a death but hadn't picked it up.
I have found some land grants that may possibly relate to both of them on the Homestead search so I was wondering whether to ask Sask. Genealogy Society for some research to see if I should obtain the files for the Grants.

Thank you again, this is such good news...

Pauline
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