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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 12:33 BST (UK) »


Ive just followed the link to the Probate estate for Frank Ford.   
I had tried a search on Familysearch but had only found information for John.
So that is great to have.   

I've had no luck finding Johns marriage to Mary either in UK or Canada. ??? :(
Thank you again for your help  I now know what happened to Frank.
Pauline
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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 15:54 BST (UK) »


Lisa

I have had the most amazing few hours!   I hadn't realised that the link to the papers for Frank Ford contained so much information.  When i first checked the link I didn't think to look further ahead, when I went back to print the information I thought   - wonder if theres any more? -  there was!  Pages and pages, full of facts and information, his marriage, his widow , her future married name, his stepdaughter, his land.

Invaluable information. 
Thank you so so much.
Im having a great day!
Pauline

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 16:03 BST (UK) »
I think you should be able to order a copy of Mary's death cert through either the BC Archives or the familysearch website. It would hopefully give you her parents' names and thus her maiden name.

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 19:54 BST (UK) »
https://katiandgraham.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I11040&tree=kegcTree
Info on Henry Carpenter, Bertha Franks and their daughter Beryl Violet Carpenter.

The three Carpenters arrived on the Montclare 14 March 1926 with destination Kyle, Saskatchewan.  Bertha was 32 born Chester England and Beryl was 3 born Dowlais as was her father Henry Carpenter 31.  Their passage was paid by F. Ford and nearest contact in Britain was Mrs. M. Franks Hayfield.  She was listed as mother of Henry and mother-in-law of Bertha although it seems that Bertha's maiden name was Franks.


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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 20:06 BST (UK) »
Polarbear
Thank you.  Ive found her maiden name on familysearch death registration.

Cosmac,
Thank you thats , more brilliant information!
I'll follow up on the link.  But Ive had an amazing day today thanks to roots chatters.

Pauline

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 June 17 20:27 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you've already found Mary's family or her marriage certificate, but in case you haven't, the following could just be coincidence, but worth mentioning?   :-\

It appears that Mary's maiden name was Jones?  (Isn't that a helpful surname.)  ;)

1916 Lacadena, Kindersley, Saskatchewan
John, Mary and Frank Ford (immigrated 1912) are shown on page 4
Shown several families below the Fords are
James Jones, age 50, born Wales, immigrated 1912
Hannah Jones, age 50, born England, immigrated 1912


1921 Lacadena, Kindersley, Saskatchewan - page 2
Jack Ford, age 46 (born c1875), England.  Immigrated 1906.  Welsh
Mary Ford, age 48 (born c1873), England.  Immigrated 1906.  Welsh

1921 Lacadena, Kindersley, Saskatchewan - page 4
James Jones, age 53, born Wales, immigrated 1906
Annah? A Jones, age 53, born Wales, immigrated 1906
  Note:  Is this the same Jones couple from 1916 - the ages are off.

Could the above James be Mary's brother, or given that Jones is such a common surname, was it just coincidence that they lived near each other in 1916 and their immigration dates are identical?

Update: Didn't notice that a son was mentioned in 1916 and 1921:
Ivor/Iven Jones, born c1903, Wales
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 June 17 16:41 BST (UK) »
Hello

Lisa in California,

Thank you!    No I hadn't found any of the information that you give  (just my luck to find another Jones!)  so thats something to investigate further.

Would you mind explaining to me how you managed to find the link to the will for Frank Ford d1929.
It has been a source of much head scratching there are over 100 pages!
When I try to find it using the familysearch site I just can't find it,  only using the link you found.
It is so very detailed I am amazed at how much there was and how the legal fees for what should have been a straightforward managed to take so much of it!

Thank you again,
Pauline


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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 20:15 BST (UK) »
...Would you mind explaining to me how you managed to find the link to the will for Frank Ford d1929...
When I try to find it using the familysearch site I just can't find it, only using the link you found...


Hi Pauline:

I've tried to recreate the search and I also cannot find that particular result.   :-\  When I search, I try to be very specific (town and exact dates) and then expand my search eventually ending up with very broad terms (province and extended date range).  If I have time later today, I will try again.  Thank you, Lisa
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: John Thomas Ford (aka Jack Ford)
« Reply #17 on: Friday 30 June 17 20:44 BST (UK) »
 Lisa in California
Thank you for all your help.
Pauline
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