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Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« on: Sunday 11 June 17 21:35 BST (UK) »
Hello--
Can someone pinpoint where Wern Wyth is or was??
I know it was in the Glyn Hamlet of Llanelli.
Thank you.
SES

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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 11 June 17 22:00 BST (UK) »
there is an article on Lannelli Hospital 1867 and it mentions a Thomas Morris from Wern (run over by a train in 1858.

The translation to English for "Wern" is tit, quagmire swamp
translation for Wyth is eight
so could it be an address of no 8 Wern??

Could you post where on census it is mentioned?

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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 11 June 17 22:16 BST (UK) »
Hi--
    David Thomas lives there in 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871--and maybe beyond.
All in Llanelly. He was born about 1799/1800--wife was Mary.
I tried to send page--too big.
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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 June 17 22:21 BST (UK) »
Hi--
     Trying 1841 again--David Thomas--top of page.
Stephen


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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 June 17 00:17 BST (UK) »
It looks to me like most of  the houses have names - in part of the 1841 census addresses are just "werm" -so maybe the address was  8 Werm??

there was an independant chapel built 1770 named Capel Als (Alice) on Marble Hall Rd/Werm Rd which in 1851 had at least 1000 worshipping there

The description of the enumerator's walk in 1841 is "all that part of the Borough Hamlet lying to the right of the road through the Wern from its junction with Westfal? to ?wppellal?? & from there to Marble Hall

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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 June 17 01:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Take care.
Stephen

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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 June 17 06:49 BST (UK) »
The census page says Wern chwith. Hamlet of Glyn is an area that includes Sylen, north east of Five Roads.

Google map:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Sylen,+Llanelli/@51.7413126,-4.1654698,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x486eefcc2dc71705:0x914fb212daa144c6!8m2!3d51.7413126!4d-4.1567151

http://maps.nls.uk/view/101168438  (old map)

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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 June 17 07:44 BST (UK) »
Chwith means left.
Horne - Oxfordshire, Lincolnshire
James - Grosmont (Monmouthshire)
Jones, Thomas, Davies - Carmarthenshire, Glamorgan
Price - Monmouthshire, Glamorgan
Prosser - Breconshire
Prossl - Bohemia, London
Rees - Carmarthenshire, Monmouthshire, Illinois
Walter - Somerset, Kansas, Queensland, Western Australia

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Re: Wern Wyth, Llanelli
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 June 17 11:32 BST (UK) »
Hello--
     Thanks to both of you. I will check out the information, maps.
Stephen