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RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« on: Monday 12 June 17 14:32 BST (UK) »
I would like to have the Rootschatters' thoughts on this information?  Sarah Rhodes [nee Stopford] was living in 1891 in Tintwistle where her three children, Joseph, John and Martha Ellen were born.  She married her husband, William Rhodes, in 1884, Hadfield [Parish of Whitfield, Derbyshire] but he drops out of the records and Sarah is recorded on the 1891 census as 'married' but she is an employed boarder.  Her sons in 1901 are living with their aunt, Martha Stopford Callandine, in Tintwistle but Sarah and her daughter are unaccounted for.  I have been fortunate enough to find these school records [Duke of Norfolk, Glossop] which records Sarah as a widow and the family address as 'The Union'.  I have presumed this to be the Union Workhouse, Glossop, but would welcome any input.  It is always good to have another viewpoint.  Best wishes and thanks.  I am appending the school records.  The year of birth is correct for the children but not the month.  They were not all born in May.

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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 June 17 14:36 BST (UK) »
I'll try the attachments again.

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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 June 17 14:51 BST (UK) »
1891 census, for reference:

Class: RG12; Piece: 3297; Folio: 127; Page: 17
Lower Newton Square, Tintwistle, Lancashire

Potts, Mary  Head  Widow  F  73  b Cheshire
Blackburn, Edwin  Grandson  M  21  b Cheshire
Ollerenshaw, Ellen  Granddaughter  F  18  b Cheshire

Rhodes, Sarah  Boarder  Married  F  29  Cotton Weaver  b Cheshire
Rhodes, Joseph  Boarder  M  6  b Cheshire
Rhodes, Martha E  Boarder  F  5  b Cheshire
Rhodes, John  Boarder  M  2  b Cheshire
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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 June 17 15:02 BST (UK) »
thank you, yes, that's the 1891 census I have for them.  Tintwistle is now in Derbyshire but then of course it was in Cheshire.  I do a lot of bobbing between the counties to check records.


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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 June 17 15:52 BST (UK) »
There is a Death for Sarah Rhodes age 30 born 1862, Abode Glossop, Burial 2 July 1892 in the Parish of Tintwistle. Could this by who you are looking for?

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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 June 17 20:29 BST (UK) »
Yes.  It's the right age and area.  If she was ill it might explain why she and the kids ended up at 'The Union'.  I don't know what happened to her husband.  Thank you.  That's really helpful.

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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 09:22 BST (UK) »
Just as a point of interest, this was one of my 'brick walls'.  I could not work out what happened to them all until I found a school records image on 'findmypast' which indicated they were in 'the workhouse'.  I have supposed it to be the Glossop workhouse although most large parishes would have a Union workhouse.  I'm still not sure what happened to William Rhodes [husband].  Martha Ellen vanishes.  She's not with her brothers at her aunt's in 1901 so I wonder if she died.  Anyway, it's been a step forward that I didn't have last year so it's all good.  Info on the Glossop workhouse is plentiful on the heritage sites but it sounds an especially grim place.  Poor souls.

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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 11:37 BST (UK) »
Parish workhouses disappeared after the Poor Law Amendment Act 1834.
After that each Poor Law Union had a workhouse.
These Unions roughly correspond with Registration Districts - as Registration Districts were based on Poor Law Unions at first.

The best place to go for workhouse info is www.workhouses.org.uk.

The page for Glossop is:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Glossop/
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Re: RHODES Family, Glossop, Derbyshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 21:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you.