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Will of Anthony Gell of Hopton dated 1579
« on: Tuesday 13 June 17 08:31 BST (UK) »
A number of online sources mention a will of Anthony Gell of Hopton in Derbyshire dated 1579. I have tried searching for that will in the findmypast "Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield And Coventry Wills And Probate 1521-1860" series and also the Ancestry series containing PCC wills. Neither seems to have it. Does anyone know where else I might find it?

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Re: Will of Anthony Gell of Hopton dated 1579
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 09:24 BST (UK) »
I know findmypast doesn't have all the wills proved at Lichfield.
I checked on Rosemary Lockie's website which has indexes further back in time then the Staffordshire Names Index (Lichfield's own index of wills but the dates you can search are not all on there yet).
Came up with this
http://wishful-thinking.org.uk/cgi-bin/lichdb.pl?surname=gell&county=1&submit=Search&firstname=&seed=&range=0&sndx=on&place=&peculiar=4&sort=Date&disp=20
So not there.

Have you seen the one at The National Archives Discovery wills database?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8299735

It's for 1583 instead of 1579, but pretty close. It might have taken that long to prove. You can download it easily from the page - comes through straight away. Perhaps Ancestry doesn't have them all digitised?

There's also one for Ralph Gell of Hopton 1564 which sounds as if it will be the same family if you haven't seen it.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Will of Anthony Gell of Hopton dated 1579
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 09:50 BST (UK) »
Have you seen the one at The National Archives Discovery wills database?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8299735

It's for 1583 instead of 1579, but pretty close. It might have taken that long to prove. You can download it easily from the page - comes through straight away. Perhaps Ancestry doesn't have them all digitised?

The above will is four pages. Ancestry have digitised the last three but have missed the first page, and therefore haven't indexed it.

A search of Ancestry's PCC wills database for the will of George Carewe proved 1583 will take you to the page immediately before the three available pages of Gell's will. But I guess you'll need to pay TNA anyway in order to access the missing first page.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=5111


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Re: Will of Anthony Gell of Hopton dated 1579
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 09:52 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Goldie, that 1583-proved will at the National Archives is the one so I'll download. Very much appreciated.


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Re: Will of Anthony Gell of Hopton dated 1579
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 09:53 BST (UK) »
Oh ok Bookbox, clever thinking! I subscribe to Ancestry so I'll do that. Thanks again to you both.

Edit: oh now I understand, Ancestry have missed the page entirely, not just included it in the previous record. Oh well, I'll pay the National Archives.

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Re: Will of Anthony Gell of Hopton dated 1579
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
Derbyshire Record Office have masses of information on the Gell family (basically the have all the papers of the Gell of Hopton family 1200-1905). You can search their catalogue online. Includes :
D258/39/7/1 1580 - Draft will of Anthony Gell.
D258/39/7/2 1583 - Typescript copy of will of Anthony Gell