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Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« on: Tuesday 13 June 17 09:27 BST (UK) »
Evan is my Paternal grandfather, supposedly born in Swansea about 1882 - though he could have been born in the Cape Verde Islands and his father - Evan Jenkins worked as the coal station manager there for some years and some of his siblings were born there.

His mother was Grace Gowman.  In the census - it says he was born in the late 1870's, then 10 years later the census says that Alfred was the first born - we have his birth certificate and that Evan was about 5 years old.

I have a cousin in Wales who has tried to find the birth records - but no luck.

Does anyone have any ideas please?

Many thanks Chrissie46
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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 10:11 BST (UK) »
1891 census:
Class: RG12; Piece: 4407; Folio: 11; Page: 15
Wood Street, Cardiff

Jenkins, Evan  Head  M  40  Marine Smith  b Glamorganshire
Jenkins, Grace  Wife  F  34  b England
Jenkins, Alfred  Son  M  15  b Swansea
Jenkins, Grace  Daughter  F  13  b England
Jenkins, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  11  b England
Jenkins, Evan  Son  M  9  b England
Jenkins, Ernest Vincent  Son  M  6  b Cape Verde British Subject
Jenkins, Frederick George  Son  M  4  b Cape Verde British Subject
Jenkins, Albert Edward  Son  M  2  b St Vincent, Cape Verde
Jenkins, William Gowman  Son  M  0  b England


Birth Registration (from GRO):

JENKINS, EVAN        (Mother's maiden name:) GOWMON      
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 673
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 10:20 BST (UK) »
Other birth registrations:

JENKINS, ALFRED        GOWMON      
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 734

JENKINS, ELIZABETH        GOWMON      
GRO Reference: 1879  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 657

JENKINS, GRACE        GOWMAN        
GRO Reference: 1877  J Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 713

JENKINS, ELIZABETH        GOWMON      
GRO Reference: 1879  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 657

JENKINS, WILLIAM  GOWINON      GOWINON      
GRO Reference: 1890  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 363

JENKINS, CAROLINE        GOWMEN      
GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 407

JENKINS, EVA        GOWMON        
GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 407

JENKINS, JOHN  IVOR      GOWMON      
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 429
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 10:29 BST (UK) »
1901 Census:
Wyndham Street, Cardiff

Jenkins, Grace  Head  F  44  b Bristol
Jenkins, Lily  Daughter  F  20  b Swansea
Jenkins, Ernest  Son  M  16  b Cape Colony
Jenkins, Fred  Son  M  14  b Cape Colony
Jenkins, Alfred  Son  M  12  b Cape Colony
Jenkins, Carry  Daughter  F  8  b Barry, Glamorgan
Jenkins, Eva  Daughter  F  8  b Barry
Jenkins, Ivor  Son  M  6  b Barry
Jenkins, Victor  Son  M  2  b Barry
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 11:36 BST (UK) »
and then this confusing census from 1881
Nightingale Row, Clase, Swansea RG11/5353 folio 98 pg 47
Evan Jenkins head mar 31 blacksmith b. Loughor
Evan son 5
Grace dau 4
Elizabeth dau 1
Grace wife 25 b. Bristol, Glos
children all born Swansea.
Looks like Alfred is enumerated as Evan for some reason.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 11:46 BST (UK) »
death of son William on 1891 census

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4595584/4595589/43/gowmon

marriage reg
Evan Jenkins june qtr 1874 Swansea vol 11a pg 1049 with Grace Gowman on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 14:06 BST (UK) »
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 09:17 BST (UK) »
Hello KGarrad and Osprey,

Many thanks for your very informative replies.

KGarred -1891 Census - showing Grace, Elizabeth and Evan born in England?  I wonder why?  Also the Gowmon spelling.

I will see if I can obtain the certificate from GRO - 1882 - M Quarter in Swansea Volume 11A - Page 673.
 1901 census - Evan was a Kitchener Scout in the Boer War - not for long but he was there - then the war ended.

my next mystery to solve is when he came to Australia - about 1912-13 we think.  He joined the Army in 1915 - off to the WW1 in France etc. - until 1918 -19 - came back to Australia early 1920 with his wife and children - including my dad who was about 9-10 months old.  I have all of Evans War Records.

Yes Osprey - I did do the research some years back which you helped with - however, we have never been able to find the Birth Certificate - a visit to Swansea and they said they had no records.  I am going back to the UK again at the end of the year and will have another go in person if I can't order it over the internet.  I also have the Marriage Certificate.

Once again, thanks for the wonderful RootsChat service.  Chrissie46
Jenkins - Jones - Thomas - Owen - Matthews - Edwards in Glamorgan Wales.
Howe - Johnson - Morley - in Soham England.

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Re: Evan Jenkins - Swansea
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 09:49 BST (UK) »
you can order online from the GRO, it's the cheapest way and the same cost for wherever it is posted to.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb