William Thomas Landricombe - born Plymouth, abt 1857

[osprey]

I think the William with Jane Western is the son of David. The William Henry who married Emily Caroline Sandercock 13 Aug 1860 named his father as George, a ropemaker on his marriage. They have a son called William George june qtr 1861 so overlapping with William & Jane's children.

William Henry Landricomb was baptised 14 March 1838 son of George, ropemaker, and Margaret of Stonehouse.

William Landricomb was baptised 29 April 1838 son of David ropemaker, and Elizabeth of Stoenhouse.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Looks like Priscilla Western's family in 1841.

John Western    38
Betsey Western    36
John Western    14
William Western    10
Jane Western    6
Edward Western    3
Mary Western    1

John's occupation does look like gardener

So is that Jane on 1861 enumerated as an Osborne??

[Mabel Bagshawe]

birth regs all with mother's maiden name Western

Elizabeth Jane Landecombe dec qtr 1862 Plymouth vol 5b pg 270
James David Landricombe march qtr 1865 Plymouth vol 5b pg 258
William Thomas Kent sept qtr 1859 Plymouth vol 5b pg 247

9 April 1854 St Andrew, Plymouth William Kent bach 22 fisherman, father James, fisherman married Jane Western 21, father John, gardener both living at 26 Old Town Street, He signed, she marked, witnesses Mary Ann Newcombe & William Peter Henry White.

Jane was baptised 3 Aug 1842, date of birth noted as 20 July 1833, daughter of John Western, gardener & Elizabeth of Basket Street.

Haven't spotted Jane as yet in 1861 but William Kent is living with his parents
21¹₂ Lower Batter St RG9/1444 folio 106 pg 18
James Kent head mar 55 fisherman
Ellen wife 57
William A son married 28 fisherman
Elizabeth dau 22 dressmaker
Jane A dau 18 tailoress
Ellen dau 15 tailoress
Frederick A grandson 7
all born Plymouth
Possible birth for Frederick A as Frederick Western june qtr 1853 Plymouth vol 5b pg 265, - for mother's maiden name which can signify an illegitimate birth.

sorry, red post as I was taking ages typing this up & checking as I went.

 

William Kent, fisherman, appears to be alive, well and claiming to be unmarried in 1871, living with parents James [66] and Eleanor [68] and another of their grandchildren also called Frederick [3]

[Mabel Bagshawe]

similarly in 1891, as a widower, with his widowed father

[osprey]

just checked the birth regs for the 2 Williams

William Landricome june qtr East Stonehouse vol 9 pg 311 mother's maiden name Edwards
William Henry Landricome june qtr East Stonehouse vol 9 pg 329 mother's maiden name Edwards


David Landricombe married Elizabeth Edwards 23 June 1834 Plymouth St Charles, witnesses George & Margaret Landricombe.
George Landricombe married Margaret Edwards 7 April 1833 Plymouth St Charles, witnesses James Edwards & M Richard - probably the parish clerk as he witnessed several marriages.

[MaureeninNY]

Looks like Priscilla Western's family in 1841.

So is that Jane on 1861 enumerated as an Osborne??

I think so!

Maureen

[osprey]

it does look likely, doesn't it? She's the only Priscilla Western around. I wonder if it's an enumerator error?

William, son of David Landricombe is still living with his parents in 1861 - RG9/1435 folio 61 pg 12.

 

[osprey]

just checked the birth regs  for some of Jane's siblings born after 1837

Edward George Western june qtr 1838 Plymouth vol 9 pg 380 mmn Newcombe
Mary Ann Western june qtr 1840 Plymouth vol 9 pg 382 mmn Newcombe
Priscilla Western march qtr 1848 Plymouth vol 9 pg 399 mmn Newcombe

John Western married Elizabeth Newcombe 3 Nov 1828 in East Stonehouse

Possibly a cousin who witnessed Jane's marriage to William Kent as she was Mary Ann Newcombe.

[Dave Landy]

Mabel, William Landricome, rope maker, 23 with parents David and Elizabeth is the William mentioned by Osprey who married Jane Kent (Western). I have a copy of their son David James' birth certificate, and looking more closely I can see the address is 13 Looe Street, not Love Street as I assumed.

I have a Railway Employments record giving William Thomas' birth as 5th May 1859 - given the GRO record mentioned for William Thomas Kent, mother's maiden name Western, is the Jul-Sep quarter, this looks like a match. He must have taken his step-father's surname. Thank you for finding that Maureen.

I will have to do more checking and double-checking, especially if I want to tell my father on Father's Day that he's really a Kent, not a Landricombe!

Edit: Mabel, the family information for Jane Western is also very appreciated, as it appears her status as my 3rd great grandmother is now confirmed.

I was aware of James David and David George, but the mis-spelling of Elizabeth Jane's name meant that I had missed her. It seems very likely now that she would be the Elizabeth who witnessed William Thomas' marriage - another mystery solved!

Thank you everyone who has replied, I will be tracking the leads you have dug up for some time, some of them confirming what I already knew, and this one in particular blowing my mind!