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ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« on: Tuesday 13 June 17 20:25 BST (UK) »
In 1872 she married JAMES MASON in Islington,draper,(his father Benjamin Mason,gentleman,of Seaford Sussex).In 1875 a daughter,Ellen Beatrice Mason,was baptised in Southampton.
In the 1901 &1911 censuses Ellen Mason is in Great Baddow living with her daughter now Beatrice Helen Peacock.
In the 1881 census Beatrice Mason is shown as a visitor in a household in Margaretting,and in the 1891 census Beatrice H Mason is shown as a visitor in a relations house in Great Baddow (Galleywood Common).
I cannot find Ellen Mason in the 1881 & 1891 censuses (or her husband James),for some reason apparently not living with her young daughter on these two dates.
Should really appreciate any help as to her whereabouts during this period.
Green family ,West Hanningfield and Writtle,Essex, 1700-1900,plus other Essex areas and later dates.Collins,Dobbs,Terry,Betts,Hucknall etc,Nottinghamshire.

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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 00:10 BST (UK) »
Do you have a place and date of death for James?

I see from a tree on ancestry that Ellen had brothers who emigrated to Australia and New Zealand; maybe she and James gave it a try too, with the intention of their daughter joining them at a later date.


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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 07:04 BST (UK) »
Beatrice Helen Mason was baptized privately at St Margaret, Margretting 16 October 1875 to James and Ellen Mason.
Occupation listed as Publican

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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 07:31 BST (UK) »
Ref Essex Pub History
James Mason was proprietor of the Red Lion in Margaretting   1878 Kelly's Directory

He was a publican when his daughter was baptized.

1881 census of Margaretting James Mason born Hanly Staffordshire age 40 married was proprietor of
The Eagle Public House (on census) Locally Spreading Eagle Public House.
No wife with him.

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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 07:43 BST (UK) »
Have two families been confused as Beatrice Helen was baptized in Margarettiing Essex 1875. to James and Ellen Mason see previous post.

You have Ellen Beatrice baptized Southampton 1875 to James and Ellen Mason and the marriage you found James is a Draper. Edit see post below, no father named just mother Ellen Mason probably illegitimate.

Added found the marriage and Ellen Green is of West Hanningfield with father George deceased.
Essex Record Office Parish Registers George Green buried 6 November 1866 age 65.
West Hanningfield
He left a will wife Sophia is an executor states he died 30 October 1866

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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 08:17 BST (UK) »
I'm confused as well, if Ellen Beatrice was baptised in Southampton there is a Beatrice Mason in the 1901 at South Stoneham, Hampshire, born 1876 Southampton. She is a servant.

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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 09:15 BST (UK) »
New GRO index
Beatrice Helen Mason registered Chelmsford S quarter 1875 mmn Green
Ref Chelmsford 04a page 227.



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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 09:17 BST (UK) »
Just to keep entries separate
the Ellen Beatrice Mason baptized Southampton transcribed on ancestry has only mothers name of Ellen Mason, so I think that's the wrong one.

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Re: ELLEN GREEN,born 1847,West Hanningfield
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 21:23 BST (UK) »
Very many thanks for all your replies.
I do have my tree on Ancestry (COLINGREEN91).
The Essex Standard,6 Sept 1872,reports the marriage,and confirms Ellens father as the late George Green of West Hanningfield.
I obviously had the wrong birthplace for  Beatrice Helen Mason,thanks for the Margaretting entry.
Discovered James Masons death-1900 Rochford District,confirmed by his will (then living in Great Wakering) as he left his estate partly to a John Millbank.Ellen Mason in the 1911 census had her sister Sophia Ann Milbank (3 times married!) living with her. Needs some further investigation.
Still cannot find James Mason in the 1891 census though ??
or
Ellen Mason in 1881 and 1891 ?? Puzzling.
Thanks again for the replies,
Colin


Green family ,West Hanningfield and Writtle,Essex, 1700-1900,plus other Essex areas and later dates.Collins,Dobbs,Terry,Betts,Hucknall etc,Nottinghamshire.