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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 June 17 13:50 BST (UK) »
I have started a new topic in BERKSHIRE in order to post an image (not allowed on LOOKUP boards).
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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 June 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
I have started a new topic in BERKSHIRE in order to post an image (not allowed on LOOKUP boards).

Link  ;D
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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 02:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks - that's really helpful

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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 16:25 BST (UK) »
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"My sister has found an old family tree sketch which shows some more information:

John Jackson (Jnr) - my Grandad - MAY have had Kate, Will and Ernest as siblings. And his parents were very probably John and Emma.  No ages or dates, unfortunately."


A possibility ????????????????


There is this marriage:

Sept Q 1877
Nantwich 8a 487
John Jackson
Emma Lewis



Marriage Details:

John Jackson
England, Cheshire Parish Registers
Name    John Jackson
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    05 Jul 1877
Event Place    St Paul, Crewe, Cheshire, England
Gender    Male
Age (Formatted)    39y
Marital Status    Widowed
Father's Name    John Jackson
Spouse's Name    Emma Lewis
Spouse's Marital Status    Single
Spouse's Father's Name    William Lewis



Then in 1881:

Living at 42 Albert Street Grocers Shop

Head: John Jackson aged 51
Wife: Emma aged 24
Son: Ernest aged 2*****************************
Son: William aged 1*****************************


Births with mother's maiden name Lewis:

John Ernest Jackson June Q 1878 Nantwich 8a 371
William Jackson Mar Q 1880 Nantwich 8a 357
John Jackson Dec Q 1882 Nantwich 8a 331<<<<<<<<<<<Fits with birth of your John Jackson
Maggie Jackson Dec Q 1886 Nantwich 8a 333

Death:
Dec Q 1888
Nantwich 8a 218
John Jackson aged 59


2nd marriage for Emma:

Mar Q 1891
Nantwich 8a 517
Emma Jackson
John Merchant
   

1891 Emma and John Merchant are living in Coppenhall Monks Cheshire also living with them are her children Ernest, William John and Maggie jackson
   

   

   1901 census still living in Albert Street Monks Coppenhall Cheshire

John Merchant    Head    M    36    Aberdovy, Monmouthshire
Emma Merchant    Wife    F    43    Newcastle, Staffordshire
Ernest John Jackson    Step Son    M    23    Crewe, Chester
William Jackson    Step Son    M    21    Crewe, Chester
John Jackson    Son    M    18    Crewe, Chester <<<<<<<<<<<Occ: Cab Driver
Maggie Jackson    Step Daughter    F    14    Crewe, Chester
Kate Merchant    Daughter    F    9    Crewe, Chester******************************
Henry Merchant    Son    M    8    Crewe, Chester
Lucy Grace Merchant    Daughter    F    6    Crewe, Chester
Edward Merchant    Son    M    5    Crewe, Chester
Frank Merchant    Son    M    1    Crewe, Chester



Birth reg with mother's maiden name Lewis

Kate Merchant sept Q 1891 Nantwich 8a 345
Henry Merchant Dec Q 1892 Nantwich 8a 333
Lucy Grace Merchant Sept Q 1894 8a 328
Edward Merchant June Q 1896 Nantwich 8a 343
Frank Merchant Mar Q 1900 Nantwich 8a 328


******************** the names you have given for John Jackson's siblings


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"1939 Census shows John Jackson at Westmead Farm, Monks Lane (as Poultry Farmer). This shows his date of birth as 27 Sept 1882".<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<



Baptism: (birth date matches with 1939 Register)


John Jackson
England, Cheshire Parish Registers
Name    John Jackson
Event Type    Christening
Event Date    27 May 1883
Event Place    , Coppenhall, Cheshire, England
Gender    Male
Birth Date    27 Sep 1882<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father's Name    John Jackson
Mother's Name    Emma


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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 June 17 06:49 BST (UK) »
Guess you already have his probate record
John Jackson 103 Cumberland Rd Reading died 27 Nov 1956 Probate Oxford 14 Feb to Charles Minshill maintenance painter & decorater & Albert John Fry coal merchant's manager Effects £2091 1s 3d

I forgot to ask do you have the names of any children of Johns before he married Amy Elizabeth?

Suz

The will could mention any children he may have had by his first wife  :-\   The people mentioned on the probate index are only the executors to the will
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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #14 on: Monday 03 July 17 15:22 BST (UK) »
Aah! I see Amy Elizabeth Minshull was from Monks Coppenhall Cheshire, have you found her in the 1939 register?

The John Jackson above was still single in 1911 so 1st marriage was sometime after this census was taken.

Some more info on this Jackson family (just in case this turns out to be your ancestor):


On the marriage certificate of John & Emma Jackson (nee Lewis) in 1877 Emma was recorded aged 20, John was recorded aged 39 and a Labourer but in the 1881 census he is recorded as aged 51 (perhaps he lied about his age due to the fact that there was such a large difference in their ages), his father John Jackson was also recorded as a Labourer as was William Lewis. Both bride and groom were of the parish and both signed.

In the 1881 census John was recorded as a Grocer and born in Broxton Cheshire c1830)

Baptism for William Jackson 8/8/1880 records John as a Shopkeeper, Abode: Coppenhall
Baptism for John Jackson 27/5/1883 records John as a Grocer, Abode: Copppenhall
Baptism for Maggie Jackson 10/4/1887 records John as a Grocer, Abode: 37 Albert Street

Probate for John Jackson:

14/January 1889 The will of John Jackson late of Crewe inn the County of Chester who died 21st December 1888 at Crewe was proved at Chester by Emma Jackson of 37 Albert -street Crewe widow the Relict the sole Executrix


In the 1871 census living in Albert Street Coppenhall is this John Jackson:

https://tinyurl.com/y7c2j62f



then possibly the same John and Sarah Jackson in the 1851 census:

Near Huxley Mill Waverton Great Boughton Cheshire

Head: John Jackson aged 30 Farm Labourer (born Broxton Cheshire)<<<<<<<<<<<
Wife: Sarah Jackson aged 21 Labourer's wife (born Barton Cheshire)
Step-son: Thomas Evans aged 4 (born Huxley Cheshire)

<<<<<<<<<<matches with birth place of John Jackson on the 1881 census


Possible marriage for John and Sarah:

Place: Parish Church Tarvin Chester
Date:14th Sept 1846
Groom: John Jackson (Full Age) Bachelor, Labourer, Abode:Barton
Bride: Sarah Jones (Full Age) Spinster, Abode: Barton
Groom's father: John Jackson Labourer
Bride's father: Thomas Jones Labourer
Bride and Groom made their mark
Witnesses: Harriet Williams and John Davies



Possible death for Sarah:

Deaths Mar 1877   
JACKSON    Sarah   Aged 54    Nantwich    8a   230   


 
Marriages for John Jackson's sister Maggie

Place: St Paul Crewe
Date: 1st Aug 1908
Groom: Alfred Luke, aged 23, (Bat) Labourer, 65 Underwood Lane Crewe
Bride: Maggie Jackson aged 21 (Spin) Tailoress 51 Alfred Street Crewe
Groom's father: George Luke (deceased) Labourer
Bride's father: John Jackson (deceased) Labourer
Bride and Groom both signed
Witnesses: Edith Jones and Alfred Tomkins



Marriage for John Jackson's brother Ernest John:

Place: All Saints Weston Chester
Date: 14th Jan 1903
Groom: Ernest John Jackson, aged 24, (Bat) Coppersmith Abode: Weston
Bride: Alice Jane Brookshaw, aged 21, (Spin) Abode: Weston
Groom's father: Deceased
Bride's father: William Brookshaw (what looks like) worker at Crewe Hall
Bride and Groom both signed
Witnesses: Mary Robinson, George Henry Johnson and Mary J ?



A marriage possibility for John Jackson's brother William


Marriages Dec 1904   
BRADSHAW    Annie Elizabeth        Nantwich    8a   631    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jackson    Lily         Nantwich    8a   631    
Jackson    William         Nantwich    8a   631   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Welch    George         Nantwich    8a   631    




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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
This is fantastic - thank you so much!

I had followed a couple of similar leads, but was getting very stuck and this helps move me forward a lot.

Still no idea why/when they moved south to Newbury, and came to be poultry farmers... but nonetheless I think you're right and this does match with my mans side of the family which goes back a long way in Crewe.

Thanks again

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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 12:38 BST (UK) »
Rosie99 - how would I go about getting a copy of a will?

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Re: JACKSON - Westmead Farm (Newtown Road / Monks Lane) NEWBURY
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 12:41 BST (UK) »
And Candrjm, yes my nan (Amy Elizabeth) was living with my grandad in Newbury in the 1939 Census - pretty much where I started this journey.

The part from 1911 - 1939 is a mystery...