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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #18 on: Friday 16 June 17 08:08 BST (UK) »
Wondered if "Tregaen" was an attempt to capture "Tregaian " (Llangefni)?

 

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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #19 on: Friday 16 June 17 09:54 BST (UK) »
ohh no so i have the total wrong parents for Elizabeth? back to trying to find them  :'(

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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #20 on: Friday 16 June 17 21:08 BST (UK) »
ohh no so i have the total wrong parents for Elizabeth? back to trying to find them  :'(
Wish I could offer any more advice at present but that marriage in 1852 suggests indeed a different possible Owen as the father of Elizabeth?
Even the children do not seem to follow any of her siblings if indeed the Elizabeth b 1831 Llanberis, who I do believe died 1844 was her?
Have you Thomas Davies 27 b Liverpool in 1851, as I have occ Mariner with a father Thomas ( as marriage) in Pwllheli, Caernarvonshire are these his parents?
Census ref HO107/2574/240/7
What happened to Thomas/Elizabeth and children post 1881 census?
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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 17 June 17 08:46 BST (UK) »
Wondered if "Tregaen" was an attempt to capture "Tregaian " (Llangefni)?

Baptisms (FindMyPast image/transcription)

Name - Elizabeth; Birth Date 17 Dec 1831; Baptism date - 25 Dec 1831; Birth Parish - Tregayan; Baptism place - Gosen Calvinistic Methodist, Llangwyllog, Anglesey; parents Owen Rowland (no "s"), occpn labourer and Elizabeth Jones; Parent's residence Tyn y Gate.

"Father's Parish before Marriage" has been scored through (I think it could be Tregaian) but I cannot make out the replacement parish - looks like "C...dffari"?
Llangwyllog just a stone's throw from Tregaian.



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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 17 June 17 09:02 BST (UK) »
Mother's Parish of Birth - Bodffari?

Father's parish - just "Ce ...." (the "ffari" is an overlap from mother's parish of birth



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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 17 June 17 09:24 BST (UK) »
Hugh Rowland (no "s"), born 23 Sep 1834, bap Oct 26 1834, Gosen Chapel, Tregauan,

Owen Rowland - parish of Birth "Ceidio" - Pwlleli; Elizabeth Rowland, maiden name Jones - parish of birth "Bodfari".


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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 17 June 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
Wondered if "Tregaen" was an attempt to capture "Tregaian " (Llangefni)?

Hi looking at the possible baptsms of Elizabeth and Hugh, I initially thought yes this must be a good chance of being her, Owen appears to have died prior to 1841 census, as this appears to be some of the family in Church Street, Llangefni :-

Elizth Rowlands 40
Hannah 15
Ann 15
Elizth 8
HO107/1360/ 8/4 / 1

1851 census :-

Elizabeth Rowlands 50 Widow occ Mangler b Amlwch
Hugh 16 b Tregaian
Thomas Phelps 2 Grandson b London
Elizabeth Phelps 3 Granddaughter b London
Residing Church Street, Llangefni
Census ref HO107/2520/30/15

It is in 1861 when Elizabeth snr states she is a Mangler widow of Agricultural Labourer
Residing Church Street,  Llangefni
Census ref RG09/4362/51/9
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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 17 June 17 17:54 BST (UK) »
I had looked at the '41 family at Church Street.

Cannot understand why I hadn't posted details of the baptism of Anne Rowlands (with an "s"), 16 Feb 1825, abode Gate House (Tyn y Gate in Welsh), Tregaean, father Owen labourer, mother Elizabeth.

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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 17 June 17 18:10 BST (UK) »
Checked Owen's burial -
Owen Rowland, Gate House, Tregaean, buried 3 Sep 1835, age 39, place Llanfihangel Trer Beirdd