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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
Hi there is a burial in Llanberis of an Elizabeth Rowlands 27th July 1844 aged 12
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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:20 BST (UK) »
My Elizabeth married Thomas Davies in Liverpool in 1852, and the family line went down from there. I'm still in Liverpool now. I've no chance of finding Thomas Davies line as he just states wales on the census and theres loads of them haha.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:43 BST (UK) »
Hi have you the marriage certificate of Thomas Davies to Elizabeth Rowlands 1852 Liverpool as the baptism of the Elizabeth to Owen & Catherine I supplied states they were living at Bryn Fforch, the burial is address Bryn Fforch, and the family unit were living in 1841 census at Bryn y Fforch?
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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:51 BST (UK) »
The family was still at Bryn y Fforch in 1851 - HO107  2515  242  21


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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:56 BST (UK) »
ohh no now im really confused, I dont have access to my ancestry at the moment only FindMyPast and im struggling a bit with that site. Ive screenshot the children elizabeth nee rowland and thomas davies have i will try to attatch it here. I think elizabeth and thomas married 14th nov 1852 in liverpool. states owen rowland as father and on census which im struggling to find on FindMyPast, shows she was from wales.

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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 15 June 17 18:05 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast - try Roulands, not Rowlands

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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 15 June 17 18:07 BST (UK) »
here is screen shot

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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 June 17 18:54 BST (UK) »
Hi again can confirm that Elizabeth was not with Owen & Catherine in 1851 Bryn Y Fforch, having problems with Elizabeth you have from 1861, what year of birth/place of birth does she give?
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EDIT i have located a marriage 1st December 1852 Liverpool St David of a Thomas Davies to an Elizabeth Rowlands he was a Mariner, the father of Elizabeth is Owen Rowlands but the occupation is not that of Copper Miner /Miner or similar,  could even possibly be a Steward?
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Re: owen rowlands to catherine marriage
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 15 June 17 21:06 BST (UK) »
OK think I have located your tree from 1861/1881 as example 1871 census :-

Thomas Davies 47 occ Collector b Liverpool
Elizabeth 38 b ( on original something like TREGAEN )
Thomas 16
John O 9
Hugh R 8
Hannah J 3
Owen R 2
Joseph H 1
Residing Hamilton Road,  Everton, West Derby
Census ref RG10/3819/132/11

1881 Mcleod Street, Everton
Census ref RG11/3668/67/36

1861 Beresford Street, Everton
Census ref RG09/2711/73/32

So all in all the fact Elizabeth does not state in the 1871 example Llanberis rings alarm bells as to whether you have correct father at least?
Would point out however that the Elizabeth in 1841 census with Owen & Catherine was aged 8 not 10.
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