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Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« on: Thursday 15 June 17 15:42 BST (UK) »
Hey rootschatter :)

I try to find out the origin of Zedekiah Lisney and Philadelphia Woodman who married 18 July 1722 in Buckland, Surrey . Can someone help me to find their parents and siblings? 

I have also another question, Are Zedekiah and Philadelphia common names at this time? And can someone tell me more about the Lisney and Woodman family of Surrey ?



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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:40 BST (UK) »
Not sure how he fits in just yet.
PCC Wills
James Lisney bricklayer of St James Westminster wrote a will 14 February 1732/3, probated
31 October 1733 he leaves his two houses in Rygate Surrey (sp. as in will)and all real property to his sister Mary Lisney spinster.
It doesn't say where she lives at the time of the will, however James and Mary are possible relatives of Zedekiah based on age and proximity to Reigate where Zedekiah lives.

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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 June 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/dd88d522-a17f-43f1-bcd1-6bcd428293b5
Settlement after marriage of Zedekiah Lisney to Philadelphia, dau. of Sarah Lucas by former husband John Woodman

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/405d6192-e88b-4fff-bb25-c4f8cb336920

Lands .. Anth. Jeale in trust for Zedekiah Lisney and wife Philadelphia, dau. of John Woodman, step-dau. of Geo. Lucas and their heirs;............ fine; 1. Geo. Lucas of Buckland and wife Sarah John Beadle ..... and wife Eliz. sister of Lucas, Zedekiah Lisney of Buckland, butcher 'cousin' of Lucas, and son of Eliz. by first marriage to Jasper Lisney; 2. Ralph Arnold of Leigh yeoman


This is the link to TNA page for Zedekiah with lots of possibilites including the above
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=Zedekiah+Lisney
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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 June 17 20:38 BST (UK) »
This will may be useful based on National Archives information
James Lysney otherwise Lisney written 17 August 1733 probate 20 December 1733
PCC wills
James Lysney of West Headley Sussex formerly of Oxted Surrey bricklayer. Leaves houses, orchards
etc. etc. to sister Mary Lysney.
She is to pay ten pounds per year to his kinswoman Ann now wife of Jasper Holmes
Mentions Kinsman William Lisney the elder and Jasper Lisney, children of these two men. William, Adam and Jasper.


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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 June 17 20:51 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Going from the info posted by rosie99 above, there is the following marriage on familysearch:

Jn Woodman to Sar Offri on 16th July 1699 at Buckland, Surrey. Link here: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V52X-HRG

Zedekiah & Philadelphia had a daughter named Sar. Sar is of course short for Sarah.

I am not seeing a marriage for Zedekiah's parents Jasper Lisney & Elizabeth unfortunately.

Hope this helps.

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David
Aitcheson, Aldred, Batty, Bauer, Bone, Brewer, Dean, Doyle, Durant, Fife, Finney, Gibson, Graham/Grayham, Hall, Harrison, Hersey, Hill, Holliss, Hudson, Hussey, Insley, Kelsey, King, Laver, Longmore, Luke, Mellor, Newman, North, Parker, Phillips, Porter, Read, Robinson, Rowel, Spink, Sproxton, Steer, Stevenson, Tanner, Witty/Whitty, Warburton, Wood.
(For more information on the above surnames please check the Surname Interest Table below.)

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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 June 17 16:36 BST (UK) »
Hello Rosie99,amondg and DavidJP,

Thanks for your help and for all these information. :)

I also saw the marriage of a John Woodman 1699 in Buckland, Surrey to a Sarah Offri .But  Is Offri her real surname or misspelled ?



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Jane
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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 June 17 16:58 BST (UK) »
It has been transcribed by the local family history society as well as familysearch so it obviously looks like that in the register
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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 June 17 19:42 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Looking at the marriage on Ancestry it has been transcribed as 'John Woodman to Sary Obbri'.

Looking at the record itself it reads as follows:

'1699 Married John Woodman & Sary Obbri the 16 day of July 1699.'

Having looked closely at letters on the rest of the two pages within the image as regards Offri/Obbri, the double letters are more like the letter b on the pages than the letter f.

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David
Aitcheson, Aldred, Batty, Bauer, Bone, Brewer, Dean, Doyle, Durant, Fife, Finney, Gibson, Graham/Grayham, Hall, Harrison, Hersey, Hill, Holliss, Hudson, Hussey, Insley, Kelsey, King, Laver, Longmore, Luke, Mellor, Newman, North, Parker, Phillips, Porter, Read, Robinson, Rowel, Spink, Sproxton, Steer, Stevenson, Tanner, Witty/Whitty, Warburton, Wood.
(For more information on the above surnames please check the Surname Interest Table below.)

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Re: Zedekiah&Philadelphia Lisney
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 June 17 18:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you all :)


Best wishes

Jane
SMITH-Worth,Cuckfield/Sussex
COOPER-Heston,Harmondsworth/Middlesex
PATTENDEN- Sussex
FULLER- Worth /Sussex
UNDERWOOD-Chertsey/Surrey
JONES- Chertsey
BRIDDIST-Chertsey
BERRYMAN-Chertsey
HOWARD-Chertsey
TAYLOR-Hilmarton/Wiltshire
MILLS-East Ilsley/Berkshire
EVANS-East Hendred/Berkshire
HITCHMAN-Wantage
GODDARD- East Hendred
SHORTLAND-Sunbury-on-Thames
DUKES-Heston
NICOLLS-Middlesex
PICKET- Wroughton/Wiltshire
BUTLER-Wroughton
LANGRIDGE -Worth/Sussex