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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 June 17 00:01 BST (UK) »
Went in for some fancy names!  ;D

Samuel Corneinelson Waite
Baptism :   7 Jul 1880
Father's name:   Charles John Samuel Waite
Mother's name:   Mary Anne Adey Waite
Kingsway Holy Trinity
Camden
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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 June 17 00:04 BST (UK) »
Went in for some fancy names!  ;D

Samuel Corneinelson Waite
Baptism :   7 Jul 1880
Father's name:   Charles John Samuel Waite
Mother's name:   Mary Anne Adey Waite
Kingsway Holy Trinity
Camden

Now this is interesting because that middle name was in a possible marriage record for Charles' parents!
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 June 17 00:15 BST (UK) »
That could explain it then if he was given a name of a grandparent.

I can't find the family in 1891 or 1901 although Samuel is in the 1901 married to Elizabeth and living at 17 Wootten Street.
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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 June 17 01:22 BST (UK) »
Family in 1901, all with Mmn Jolly, no Fanny Jane with family.

1901 - 27, Broadwall, Christchurch Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

Charles J   Waite   Head   Married   Male   44   Market Porter   Cambridgeshire, England   
Mary   Waite   Wife   Married   Female   42   Marylebone, Middlesex, England   
Harry   Waite   Son   Single   Male   10   Surrey, England   
Mabel   Waite   Daughter   Single   Female   12      Surrey, England   
Beatrice   Waite   Daughter   Single   Female   8      Surrey, England   
Maud   Waite   Daughter   Single   Female   6   Surrey, England   
Albert   Waite   Son   Single   Male   18    Middlesex

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 June 17 01:24 BST (UK) »
Family in 1901, all with Mmn Jolly. no Fanny Jane with family.

1901 - 27, Broadwall, Christchurch Southwark, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

Charles J   Waite   Head   Married   Male   44   Market Porter   Cambridgeshire, England   
Mary   Waite   Wife   Married   Female   42   Marylebone, Middlesex, England   
Harry   Waite   Son   Single   Male   10   Surrey, England   
Mabel   Waite   Daughter   Single   Female   12      Surrey, England   
Beatrice   Waite   Daughter   Single   Female   8      Surrey, England   
Maud   Waite   Daughter   Single   Female   6   Surrey, England   
Albert   Waite   Son   Single   Male   18    Middlesex

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Thank you for this. In 1901 there is a Fanny Waite in an Orphanage...would this make no sense?
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 June 17 01:31 BST (UK) »
Don't think it's her in orphanage, family had a number of children all seemingly raised by parents.

Not locating 1891, but the couple are having children born in area. At least the mother has not remarried, or parents died.

Maybe missed off 1891 census, or its unreadable?

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 June 17 01:53 BST (UK) »
Think this maybe them married, image matches surname.

F M P 1911 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPF-PRD

Likely firstborn b late 1911

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 June 17 11:37 BST (UK) »
Fanny would be 15 by 1901 so could be working and living elsewhere as a servant. If that is the case her name may have been recorded incorrectly. You say that she was married in the Medway area of Kent, but her family seem to remain around the Lambeth/Southwark area of London, so perhaps she was working as a servant in that area and married from there?   
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Re: Frances (Fanny) Jane Waite
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 June 17 12:12 BST (UK) »
Not locating 1891, but the couple are having children born in area. At least the mother has not remarried, or parents died.
Maybe missed off 1891 census, or its unreadable?

Could be lost in 1891.
Baptism at St John the Evangelist, Waterloo Road, Lambeth, 29 March 1891
born 7 March 1891
Henry James
parents Charles + Mary Ann Waite
abode 3 Wootton Pl. Wootton St.
father a Market Porter

Historical Streets Project
Lambeth Registration District, 1891 Census Street Index U-Z
Wootton Place -  Wootton Street missing after f 147 RG 12/387

Wootton Street -  Part 56-end MISSING after f 147, 1-56 part = RG 12/387 folios 139-147

That is in sub district Waterloo Road First, enumeration district 5, ending with
Wootton St. both sides
Wootton Place