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Offline Tim Brayshaw

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John Holtby from Sutterton
« on: Friday 16 June 17 12:07 BST (UK) »
I have a John Holtby, according to the census, born about 1855 in Sutterton, Lincolnshire, England.

I have him on every census from 1871 to 1911 quite happily, but i can not find the first census he would be on.

Because i was stuck i ordered his marriage certificate to Harriet Gallon. That says he was 27 years old on April 23rd 1883, he was a widower, labourer by occupation and his father was Thomas Holtby, deceased at the time of marriage and he was also a labourer.

I just want to find him on the 1861 census to find his full parents' details so i can continue the line back.

Can anyone help with this at all?
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London - Overall
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Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
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East Markham - Wilmot(t)
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Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 June 17 13:02 BST (UK) »
Possibly yours..

Birth reg-John Holtby Sept qtr 1855 Boston -mothers maiden name-Bescoby

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Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 June 17 13:07 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage on Freereg site

Thomas Holtby m Elizabeth Bescaby 2.9. 1849 at Gosberton.  His father named as William Holtby and her was Thomas Bescaby.

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Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 June 17 13:08 BST (UK) »
Have you noticed the William Holtby living next door but one to John in 1891 census..

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 June 17 13:15 BST (UK) »
Re.1891 census..should have said Wlm a possible brother.

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 June 17 13:15 BST (UK) »
Parish records at Gasberton
Thomas Holtby buried 22.9.1861 age 35 years
Elizabeth 1.6.1868 age 37

William John Stokes Bescboby 13.2.1851 workhouse st Mary Nicholas Spalding
John Stokes June 1853 Boston- Dec 1854 (18months)
Rosina  Dec 1857-26.3.1860
Selina 25.7.1859-22.7.1859 (weird)
Hannah 16.9.1861-11.2.1862
George Handy s of Elizabeth widow 2.3.1864-27.12.1866



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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 July 17 00:43 BST (UK) »
Parish records at Gasberton
Thomas Holtby buried 22.9.1861 age 35 years
Elizabeth 1.6.1868 age 37

William John Stokes Bescboby 13.2.1851 workhouse st Mary Nicholas Spalding
John Stokes June 1853 Boston- Dec 1854 (18months)
Rosina  Dec 1857-26.3.1860
Selina 25.7.1859-22.7.1859 (weird)
Hannah 16.9.1861-11.2.1862
George Handy s of Elizabeth widow 2.3.1864-27.12.1866



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I have just returned from holiday and noticed this. I must thank you for this information, it has given me birth years for Elizabeth and Thomas.

It is certainly strange that i can't find either of them on 1851 or 1861 as they were married in 1849 and hadn't passed away yet.
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 July 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
County   Lincolnshire
Place    Spalding
Church name   St Mary and St Nicholas
Baptism date   22 Apr 1853
Person forename   John Stokes
Person abode   Spalding Union House
Father forename   Thomas
Father surname   HOLTBY
Father occupation   Labourer
Mother forename   Elizabeth
Mother surname   HOLTBY

A little early I realise, but a previous birth??
Births Jun 1853 
Holtby    John Stokes        Spalding    7a   307
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley. Beardall. Mabbott.

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Re: John Holtby from Sutterton
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 July 17 16:55 BST (UK) »
County   Lincolnshire
Place    Spalding
Church name   St Mary and St Nicholas
Baptism date   22 Apr 1853
Person forename   John Stokes
Person abode   Spalding Union House
Father forename   Thomas
Father surname   HOLTBY
Father occupation   Labourer
Mother forename   Elizabeth
Mother surname   HOLTBY

A little early I realise, but a previous birth??
Births Jun 1853 
Holtby    John Stokes        Spalding    7a   307

This seems to be the John that passed away at 18 months old according to the previous post.
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley