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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #27 on: Friday 22 September 17 16:19 BST (UK) »
Also, maybe John Bould the Ealder (= elder?).

That makes more sense.

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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 23 September 17 03:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Hd86 and Bookbox

I agree with your interpretation for the most part. The exescries word does not make sense as meaning executor, as in the will he appoints his 4th son Joseph his sole executor, he also gives the said son the biggest share of the bequeaths. Further down on this Imprimis he directs Joseph to make almost £200 in payments. It does seem mean spirited to direct the eldest son John to pay the youngest.

In the will he names 3 gents as overseers, I wonder if the payment is directed at them?

In the next line the closest match I could find in the county records is Neccolas as a last name, very mysterious.
Further in the page is 2 more instances of Will with the l's crossed so I would agree with Widd Deane because the dd' are not crossed but Will Loyd because they are crossed
Thanks again your experienced eyes are invaluable. Brian
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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 23 September 17 05:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Brian,

I take your point regarding the crossing of the ls, but I'm also looking at the formation of the letter itself, in particular a hook as the writer's line travels up from the bottom of the i into the d or l.

Of the two images in your last post, I would say will Sambrocke without question, but the other is widd.  Follow the line from the i.  See the extra hook or notch in the second one?

Also, he writes william Butter in full in the original image and doesn't cross the ls.

Just some thoughts to consider.




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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 23 September 17 05:52 BST (UK) »
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I will go with your judgement on this. They certainly are formed like dd's and the Sambrooke example is the only one I know for certain is a William due to him being a grandchild.

Brian
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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 24 September 17 04:47 BST (UK) »
Hi again
I have now started on the inventory section. I have found a few words I can't find meanings for or Ive transcribed them wrong. I do know the meaning of both strike and can (kan).

The intestates wearing apparell & money in his purse      3
& prisions in his house                  1   10
one guelding two mares & two colts

A strike of mault lyeing in the backhouse            1   15
In the house place
one joyned table & forme                        6   8
one cheese table one salt box & five pailes                  6   8
twelve pewter dishes one pewter kan one pewter flaggon
one pewter tankard & 3 brasse bottles            2    2   6
one brasse pott & one frying pan & one iron pott              15
three turnells one hacking board & two cheese vane   

thanks for taking a look Brian
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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 24 September 17 05:45 BST (UK) »
1.  p(ro)visions - It's the pro brevigraph where the p has a crossing which curves down from the top.

2.  rucke - a variant on rick, I would expect.

3.  Agree with pailes.

4.  Agree with kan.

5.  It's either turnells or turvells.  Not sure of which or the meaning.

6.  I suspect it's vatts.

ADDED:

It's written:   ...Cheese tabbe...

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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 24 September 17 08:51 BST (UK) »
I think 3 brasse kettles (not bottles).

Also, perhaps cheese tubbe ?

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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 24 September 17 13:07 BST (UK) »
5.  It's either turnells or turvells.  Not sure of which or the meaning.

Oxford English Dictionary
turnel, n.2
Obs. exc. dial. 
  A tub; esp. a shallow oval tub.

Nothing in OED for turvel(l).

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Re: Francis Butter 1694 will Shropshire
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 24 September 17 16:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for the help Hd 86 and Bookbox

I new you would be able to provide an answer or at least an educated guess at the answer.

I enjoy so much the aha moment.

Brian
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