Decendants of Thomas and Francis Mackenzie

[Merijane]

Hi, I'm new to RootsChat  and I am looking for information relating to Thomas Mackenzie and Francis Nicholson who were married in Loch Assynt, Scotland and emigrated to Australia on the 'James Moran' in 1839.  I am a descendant of Thomas and Francis. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[maddys52]

Hello Merijane and welcome to rootschat!

You've posted in the "completed" look up requests, so I'll ask a moderator to move your post onto the general Australian board.

What information in particular are you looking for? Do you know when they died, any children etc? Did they arrive in NSW? I'm assuming since you say you're a descendant, you must have some info already. 

Lots of friendly people here waiting to help!

[maddys52]

Some mentions on Trove of the arrival of the James Moran in February 1839:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12862964 (arrival Feb 1839)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32163134 (250 passengers)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article31722569 (report of the voyage)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32162877 (a brief mention of the voyage, with only 2 children's deaths)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2548327 (immigrants mostly shepherds and labourers)

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article36860160 (list of occupations of the immigrants on board)

Edited to add: Another account of the voyage:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article31722541 (on "page 3")

[cando]

Many public trees on Ancestry.  I gave up counting after the first page of trees.

Cando

[Dundee]

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article32162877 (a brief mention of the voyage, with only 2 children's deaths)

One of those deaths was a child of Thomas and Frances, aged 10 months.

I assume it was this one:

Baptism

MACKENZIE, MALCOM
   
Parents:  THOMAS MACKENZIE/FANNY NICHOLSON
Date: 19 March 1838
Parish Number: 044/
Parish: Assynt
Ref: 20 57

Debra 
   

[Rosinish]

Hi, I'm new to RootsChat  and I am looking for information relating to Thomas Mackenzie and Francis Nicholson who were married in Loch Assynt, Scotland and emigrated to Australia on the 'James Moran' in 1839.  I am a descendant of Thomas and Francis. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Merijane,

Can you be more specific with what information you're looking for please & give what info. you already have to save people researching info. you already have?

If you're searching for the parents of Thomas & Franc ErrorSPAM REPORT THIS POST AS SPAM (Use 'Report to Moderator'). DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINKS IN THIS POST. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.]i[/color][/b]s/Frances[/color] can you please list the children in order of eldest down to youngest with any middle names please, their birth years & where born to work out ages of parents & likely year of marriage?

Annie

[Merijane]

Sorry for the delay in getting back with further information - I have been out of town for a few days. 

This is what I know so far:  Thomas Mackenzie married Frances Nicholson (aka Fanny) 20 October 1829 in Loch Assynt, Scotland.  They came to Australia from Lochinvar on the 'James Moran' arriving 1893.  Their first four children were born in Scotland - Margaret 21/12/1830 - 24/08/1900, Charles Phillip 16/08/1833-1881, James 1/07/1835 and Malcolm 1838 died at sea.  In Australia the following children were born - Donald (1840 - Campbelltown)Thomas 1842 (Parramatta), Sarah 1843 (birthplace unknown), Mary 1844 (birthplace unknown), Frances 15/12/1846 (North Rocks) and Grace 3/01/1850-1/01/1892 (North Rocks). 

My family line is through Grace and I have been able to find some information about this side of the family.    I know that Grace married Edward McCoy in 1875 and had five children (Charles, Alice, Minnie, Herbert and Frances - but I have no birth dates).  Grace married again in 1891 to Andrew Mangan and had a daughter Grace in 1892 (sorry, gets confusing with all the same Christian names). Grace jnr was raised by her Aunt, Frances Mackenzie (who was married to James Cardno Weir) following the death of her mother during childbirth.

I have been able to find out some information about Frances and James Weir's family but as for all the other children of Thomas and Frances Mackenzie i.e. Margaret, Charles, James, Donald, Thomas, Sarah and Mary, I have drawn a blank.

Hope this additional information helps and thank you to Annie, Debra, Cando and Maddys52 your assistance and for the information already posted - it's all greatly appreciated.



Meri.

[Jamjar]

Marriage: 1271/1875 Edward MCKOY Grace MACKENZIE BALMAIN

Births:
3691/1876 Charles Edward MCKOY BALMAIN
3740/1878 Frances MCKOY BALMAIN
4504/1884 Alfred H MCKOY BALMAIN

Death:
2449/1878 Frances MCKOY BALMAIN

2639/1884 Edward MCKOY parents Patrick H and Mary A BALMAIN

Edward McKoy death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13551883

Edward Funeral notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13545783

You say that Grace Jnr was raised by an aunt. What about Charles and Edward? I can't see deaths for them with parents Edward and Grace.

I can't find births/deaths for Alice and Minnie. Do you have more information on them?

Jamjar

ADDED

QLD deaths:

1941 C4218 Alfred Herbert McKoy Edward Grace MacKenzie

1945 C3251 Charles Edward McKoy Edward Grace McKenzie   

Obit for Alfred Herbert in QLD, mentions Charles and sisters' married names. Bottom of 5th column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article42324117

Buried Babinda Cemetery

A H McKoy

Burial Date: 20 Dec 1941

Cemetery: Babinda Cemetery

Section: MON

Row: L

Site: 1

You can view Alfred's WW1 record under name Herbert McKoy:

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=1951759

Charles Edward death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article81423234

Thinking this may be your Alice's marriage and death:

5584/1903 John WILLIAMSON to Mary A MCKOY BALMAIN SOUTH

1729/1950 Mary Alice WILLIAMSON parents Edward and Grace DRUMMOYNE

Death for a Roy and death notice mentions a wife Minnie:

5167/1925 Roy MCKEOWN parents John and Ellen REDFERN

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16220881


Possible marriages?:

3905/1908 Wilson SINCLAIR to Minnie E MCKOY SYDNEY

7154/1918 Edward H LACEY to Minnie E Sinclair SYDNEY

5138/1922 Roy MCKEOWN to Minnie LACEY SYDNEY

Death?: 16743/1952 Minnie Edith MCKEOWN 67 YRS DRUMMOYNE BURWOOD

Death and Funeral notices, 2nd and 5th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article18278965

[rosball]

You probably already have this ... but just in case

Death of Frances Weir 1939 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17547546

WEIR.—January 11, 1939, at her residence, Cardno, 68 Alexandra Street, Drummoyne, Frances
Weir, relict of the late James Cardno Weir, of Balmain, and loving mother of Frances, John,
James, Cecil, and Grace (Mrs. Norris), in her 93rd year.

Marriage http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13153696
MARRIAGES.
On the 9th instant, at Balmain, by the Rev. T. A. Gordon, Mr.JAMES WEIR, of Fraserbourgh, Scotland, to FRANCES, third daughter of THOMAS MACKENZIE, late of Parramatta.

Memoriam to James Cardno WEIR
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15368849

Ros

adding Funeral notice for James C WEIR in 1911 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15283235