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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 June 17 16:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot for the help everyone, that all really helps a lot.

Edith hasn't left a will but Lily has. She died first but rather than leaving anything to her sister that she was living with she left all her money (£370) to her older brother Edward.

Interestingly Edward was left £995 to share with his brother Alfred by their dad in October 1915. I'm now putting 2 and 2 together and probably coming up with 22, but given that the newspaper cuttings mention £300 in 1904 I'm now wondering if Edward lent them £370 to buy the house and that was her repaying the debt?

I haven't looked at the 1939 register properly, that will be a job for the library next weekend, but the preview shows that she and Lily are at the same address so I suspect that they are in there by then.

I'm also going to have a look at the electoral roll when I go to the library so I should hopefully get some answers about when they moved in, if Edith stayed there the whole time after Lily died and then what happened to it when Edith died.

Thanks again for all the help,

Michael
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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 June 17 17:59 BST (UK) »

Interestingly Edward was left £995 to share with his brother Alfred by their dad in October 1915.

Do you have a copy of this will as the probate calendar mentions that Edward & Albert are the executors which does not mean that they inherited the £995.17  :-\
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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 June 17 18:33 BST (UK) »
Ahh, traps for new players!

No I don't, I thought it meant they got the money.

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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 June 17 18:52 BST (UK) »
Ahh, traps for new players!

No I don't, I thought it meant they got the money.

Michael

No it just means that Edward and Alfred were granted the legal right to sort out the estate and distribute it according to their father's wishes in his will.

The same with Lily's will, unless you have seen it, it just means that Edward was granted probate  to sort things out. So Edith may have inherited.
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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 June 17 10:02 BST (UK) »
OK, thanks a lot
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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 July 17 13:12 BST (UK) »
On the 1939 register Removed
Street directories

1915-1916                Mrs E Wallace    163 Grey St
1921                         this address not in this directory
1936                        Mrs J Harrison     163 Grey St, North Shields

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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
Middlesex: RYDER
<br />Aberdeenshire: EDWARDS, BRODIE<br />Angus STEWART, DIXON, PETRIE

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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 03 July 17 18:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much for the help, I managed to get a look at the voters lists in the library today and have found that Edith was registered to vote there until 1969.

There appears to be a family called Kerr in there after them.

I am now wondering about the Mrs J Harrison that was there in 1936. Could it be that another family member owned the house and passed it on.

I haven't found anyone who fit's that name yet however I do have a few men who's wives aren't known to me yet and there ages would mean it could be them. More digging to do I think.

Thanks for the help,

Michael
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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 05:33 BST (UK) »
Mrs J Harrison, think more in terms of their husbands names, Mrs John/Jacob/Jack ????? Harrison. That's how married women were often referred to in the past.

Or the most obvious question, what was their mother called?

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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
Middlesex: RYDER
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Re: Is there a way to trace a house's history?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 13:53 BST (UK) »
Mother was Jane Harrison - when did she die

Could this be her  :-\
Jane Harrison
Death Registration Dec qtr 1937
Age at Death 85
Reg dist   Newcastle upon Tyne
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