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Bog Soldier WW2
« on: Sunday 18 June 17 16:02 BST (UK) »

Were Bog Soldiers military or civil ? Were bog soldiers part of a regiment ?
He came from Co Galway to Co Tipperary and worked in the bog cutting turf.
During WW2 fuel was in short supply.





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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 June 17 16:15 BST (UK) »
There was no such Military title as Bog Soldier.
It's possible this is the Irish equivalent to a Bevan Boy.
These were young men of military age who were prevented from joining because they were needed to work the mines.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 June 17 16:26 BST (UK) »
could it be a typo/transcription error for "Boy" soldier?

My mother's family had a Boy soldier - he was at a school for sons of soldiers, and he joined the army aged 14 in about 1916. I understand they weren't sent to the front until 16.

though, from what you say about turf-cutting, BOG sounds more likely . .
Begg - Dublin, Limerick, Cardiff
Brady - Dublin
Breslin - Wexford, Dublin
Byrne - Wicklow
O'Hara - Wexford, Kingstown
McLoghlin - Roscommon
Lawlor - Meath, Dublin
Lynam - Meath and Renovo, Pennsylvania
Everard - Meath
Fagan - Dublin
Meyler/Myler - Wicklow
Gray - Derry, Waterford
Kavanagh - Limerick

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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 June 17 16:55 BST (UK) »
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I understand they weren't sent to the front until 16
Overseas service started at age 19 in WW1.
WW2 had Cadets but they were not part of the Regular Army.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 June 17 17:04 BST (UK) »
The song Peat Bog Soldiers recorded by The Dubliners and others is German in origin (Die Moorsoldaten) and is linked to prisoners in Nazi moorland labour camps in Lower Saxony:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peat_Bog_Soldiers
Aucock/Aukett~Kent/Sussex, Broadway~Oxfordshire, Danks~Warwickshire, Fenn~Kent/Norfolk, Goatham~Kent, Hunt~Kent, Parker~Middlesex, Perry~Kent, Sellers~Kent/Yorkshire, Sladden~Kent, Wright~Kent/Essex

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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 June 17 17:12 BST (UK) »
The song Peat Bog Soldiers recorded by The Dubliners and others is German in origin (Die Moorsoldaten) and is linked to prisoners in Nazi moorland labour camps in Lower Saxony:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peat_Bog_Soldiers

I loved that song - had it on a very old E.P. Ian Campbell Group
with "We will Overcome" and "Viva la Quince Brigada" and others

(a relic of the folk enthusiasm of the 1960s)
Begg - Dublin, Limerick, Cardiff
Brady - Dublin
Breslin - Wexford, Dublin
Byrne - Wicklow
O'Hara - Wexford, Kingstown
McLoghlin - Roscommon
Lawlor - Meath, Dublin
Lynam - Meath and Renovo, Pennsylvania
Everard - Meath
Fagan - Dublin
Meyler/Myler - Wicklow
Gray - Derry, Waterford
Kavanagh - Limerick

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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 June 17 08:11 BST (UK) »
He was born in 1920. Too old for Boy soldier. I'm now thinking that Bog soldier was a local name for men employed during the war to work at turf cutting.

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Re: Bog Soldier WW2
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 June 17 10:54 BST (UK) »
Was the term learned from family oral history or do you have a document.?
Crabb from Laurencekirk / Fordoun and Scurry from mid Essex

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