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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #18 on: Monday 19 June 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
Ah, methodmoran said Annie was born in 1867 so I was looking then, assuming she had the date right.

I always think it's best if date is not proven to use 'c' (circa) so researchers are aware it's only a rough guide as a positive year given implies it's known & fact.

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #19 on: Monday 19 June 17 12:23 BST (UK) »
Think they may be in Nether Hoyland, Yorkshire in 1861, though Marion is down as Maria.
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Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 00:12 BST (UK) »
I think you are right Isobel. I dont know where to try and find details about Marion before her marriage, in London or Scotland.

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 03:29 BST (UK) »
So the original image of Marion Patterson's marriage on Scotlandspeople gives no clues at all?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 03:46 BST (UK) »
I am using Ancestry and they dont have the image. Just the transcribed record.

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 05:12 BST (UK) »
You can set up a Scotlandspeople account for free, searches are free. Just a week ago I could have told you how to get free credits and we could have opened the original image!

I've found Ancestry not very good for Scottish ancestors
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ is the only place to see the original image and if no one else has looked at it then no one can tell you the answer.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 06:01 BST (UK) »
For the children using new GRO index (England only)
Alexander 1859 Durham mmn Paterson
Bruce 1862 Barnsley Union mmn Patterson
Ann 1865 Durham mmn Patterson
Isabella 1868 Durham mmn Paterson  (same as Bella on later census)
James 1871 South Shields mmn Patterson
Marion 1874 South Shields mmn Paterson
Robert 1877 South Shields mmn Paterson


William 1879 South Shields no mothers maiden name listed most likely Illegitimate son of an older daughter

There is a William 1855 Berwick Upon Tweed Northumberland mmn Patterson
that may belong to the family as it's so close to the Scottish border.

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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 08:16 BST (UK) »
According to Familysearch, their son William was born in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire on 13th Jan 1856. What a shame he wasn't born in 1855 as the certificates in that year showed place of birth of both parents.
I have had a look at the marriage as I had a few of my free credits left. Unfortunately not very helpful as pre civil registration.
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Re: Help with a census mystery
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 20 June 17 08:43 BST (UK) »
Here is William Smith in SP
SMITH
WILLIAM
M
1856
652/3 31
Old Monkland (Eastern District)

Could Jesse Smith c 1854 be born nearby
Could she be Jessie/Janet/Jean/Jane?
Maybe they didn't bother baptising or registering her as her birth was before the  1854 Act and the first 1855 Register?

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)