Thomas Davies and Family

[Tall Al]

Hi,

I would appreciate some help in trying to find the children of Thomas's marriage to Elizabeth Jenkins on 1 February 1816 at Acton, Nantwich.

I think there are 12 children in total but initially I am trying to concentrate on 2 of them - John (christened 27 March 1817) and Amy (christened 14 Nov 1824).

I can see John in 1851 with his parents and 2 brothers (Thomas (b1839) and David (b1843)) and Amy with her grandparents William (b1767) and Amy (b1761) also in 1851.

After this date I cannot see either of them. I have used the surname Davies and Davis without success - a fresh set of eyes would really help - it would be much appreciated.

Many thanks

Alan

       

[chempat]

As Amy's grandparents appear to die between 1851 and 1861, she could have moved to live and marry or die anywhere in Cheshire (and beyond).

Do you have any marriage certificates of her siblings to see if she is a witness on them?

What are the death dates for her parents?

[chempat]

John on the 1851 census is shown as age 30, so born about 1820/1821 not 1817 - did he have an older brother, also called John, who died?

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Thanks for getting back to me.

I am only just getting stated on this family and don't have any marriage certificates.

I currently think one of the sons William  - christened 28/11/1834 married Ann Tomlinson in 1875 and their daughter (born 1878) was named Amy - she in turn married Henry Windsor in Tranmere in 1901 and had 4 children.

There was an earlier born William who was christened 1819 and I think died in 1826.

I cannot think there was an earlier son named John as the one I am looking for was born only about one year after his parents marriage.

As far as I know the children were -

John 27/3/1817; William 7/11/1819; George 1/9/1822; Amy 14/11/1824; Mary 4/3/1827; Anne 11/5/1828; Mary 14/3/1830; Henry 9/9/1832; William 28/11/1834; Emma 1/1/1837; Thomas 3/8/1839; David c1843

I am thinking that as well as William (1819) ; Mary (1827) died young - hence the re-use of that name in 1830.

George I think married Ann Finlow in 1847 and had 5 children - their son John seems to have married Emma Field in 1875 and Sarah Martin in 1895 after Emma's death in 1894.

Emma (1837) I think died in 1878.

On one "Ancestry" tree it suggests David (1843) married a Sarah Jane Gatley in 1871 but his  father Thomas's occupation is a Shoemaker and our Thomas was a Labourer. I think this is the wrong marriage. 

Finally I think Thomas (c1795)  died and was buried in Acton, Nantwich on 1 Jan 1871 with his wife Elizabeth (c1797) having been buried there 30 Jan 1870.

So far I think i have some answers on 5 of the children - Two William's, George, one Mary and Emma.

Looking for answers on the other 7 - John, Amy, Anne, Mary(1830), Henry, Thomas and David.

Thanks again for looking

Alan

     

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Just another point I have thought of relating to John (1819) and also the Mary's.

 I believe they were so named after Elizabeth's parents - John Jenkins and Mary Cadman who married at Acton, Nantwich on 29 January 1793.

Alan

[rolnora]

Hi Alan,
You say that your Thomas was a labourer but the baptisms of........
John 27 March 1817, Amy 14 Nov 1824, Henry 8 Sept 1832 and William 28 Dec 1834
All show father Thomas to be a shoemaker.
Mary 4 March 1827 her father is Thomas a labourer.
Other than Mary 1827 I haven't yet found anymore children with father Thomas a labourer.

[rolnora]

Thomas 1839 and David 1843 will be on the GRO index and show the mother's maiden name.

I've just had a quick look and there is a birth reg for a David Davies born June Qtr 1843 in Nantwich
Mother's name Jinks.
There is also a Thomas reg Sept qtr 1839 with same mother's maiden name of Jinks
 

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Thank you - I was hoping some fresh eyes would help me along.

I took Thomas's occupation from the 1851/61 censuses that I could find - they seemed to fit and  showed him to be a Labourer - however the 1841 census has him as a Shoemaker. Is it another family or has Thomas changed his occupation? Are there any 1851/61 censuses with Thomas as a Shoemaker - I will have another look when time allows.

The baptisms with the surname Jinks are correct - the name is a variation of Jenks/Jenkins/Jinkins - and they are the same family.

As Mary (1827) father was a Labourer, I can now discount her and concentrate on the others.

Thanks for your help

Alan     

[elzabels]

Per familysearch, by searching surname & parents forenames!

Baptisms
John 7/11/1817
William 7/11/1819
George 1/08/1822
Amy 14/11/1824 ( father shoemaker)
Mary 4/03/1827 - 9/04/1827
Ann 11/5/1828
Mary 14/03/1830
Henry 09/09/1832
William 28/12/1834
Emma 1/01/1837
Thomas 27/05/1838 -q3 1838
Thomas 4/08/1839

Several of the baptisms shoe Thomas as a Shoemaker, as an apprenticeship would be served it is unlikely that he would become a Lab'r unless the enumerator couldn't spell & took the easy option!

Parish Registers & Bishops transcripts on line at Findmypast