Missing Ancesters

[hanes teulu]

I'd flagged up Lavinia, dau of John, miner and Elizabeth, bap Perranzabuloe as a possibility (Cornwall OPC) and in the process of checking out the 1841 Census entry for Lavinia, age 14, mother Elizabeth Bray, inn keeper - but no sign of John. 

[hanes teulu]

From Trove Newspapers I see that Ambrose Bray and Miss L C Bray were mentioned in an item entitled "South Australia - List of Unclaimed Letters, Dec 31 1849" (Adelaide Times, 14 Jan 1850).

The mention of an Ambrose Bray provides the link to the 1841 Census and Elizabeth Bray, inn keeper.

[hanes teulu]

1841 Census - ref. HO107  147  17  16  1

Elizabeth Bray, 40, inn keeper - not born Cornwall
Ambrose Bray, 20, miner copper - not born Cornwall
Mary Bray 15, Lavinia Bray 14, John Bray 9 - all born Cornwall
Elizabeth Rogers, 20, school - born Cornwall
Emily Rogers 1 - born Cornwall

Address - Chacewater, Kenwyn, Truro

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast Baptisms (transcription/image)

Place - Parish Church Beer Ferris nr. Tavistock

Ambrose Bray, bap 16 Mar 1817, denom. Anglican, father John, occpn. miner, mother Betty, abode Gennap (sic), Cornwall.

[hanes teulu]

A Betty Carter "sojourner of this parish" married a John Bray "sojourner of this parish" in the Parish Church Beer Ferris, nr. Tavistock on 16 March 1816, with banns and parental consent

[LizzieL]

FindMyPast Baptisms (transcription/image)

Place - Parish Church Beer Ferris nr. Tavistock

Ambrose Bray, bap 16 Mar 1817, denom. Anglican, father John, occpn. miner, mother Betty, abode Gennap (sic), Cornwall.

There is a marriage for an Ambrose Bray bac, full age, miner s/o John Bray miner in St Agnes on 8 Aug 1841 to Grace Pascoe sp, full age d/o Benjamin Pascoe miner . wit John Bray, James Daniell. Bride and groom abode - Blackwater. Only James Daniell signed

[Brentor boy]

The baptism record of John Bray, Gwennap,  26 May 1833, shows his father, John, as a "mine agent". Clearly more than a simple miner.

[hanes teulu]

Possible Baptism (the 1841 Census gives age 40 ie. born 1797-1801)

Elizabeth Carter, bap 24 Oct 1795, Tavistock, parents William, soldier and Thomasin

Query - did Elizabeth go to Australia?

[LizzieL]

The marriage notice in the Royal Cornwall Gazette, 25 Oct 1850 (marriage in Adelaide) mentions -
"Joshua Payne, second son of the late George Payne, Esq, of Elm Grove, Peckham .... Lavinia Carter Bray, third daughter of the late Captain John Bray of Camborne Cornwall"

Lavinia was 3rd daughter. The '41 census has an older sister Mary, there's another older sister somewhere.