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Re: James Marcus THOMSON died 10 April1942 Timaru
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 24 June 17 06:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Minniehaha,

The birth info that I have is that May Vaughan Butcher was born on 6 August 1889 in Timaru.  Her mother is Matilda Elizabeth Campbell DAVIS.

Matilda married George Wade Butcher in 1873 in NZ.  I have found two possible children from this marriage, Robert Campbell Butcher born in 1873 and Edwin Campbell Butcher born in 1881 (but read on).

The Evening Star newspaper of 23 December 1876 pg 3 records a bankruptcy for a George Wade Butcher (also in Archway) of Dunedin, Leather Merchant.  The ER for 11875-76 Dunedin has a George Wade Butcher living at Leith & Hanover streets, corner house.  After this he appears to disappear!

I did however find a George Butcher death on 6 February 1913, buried in Andersons Bay cemetery age 65 years.  Native of England and had been in NZ 50 years.  2 others unrelated are buried in the same plot.  I think that this is Matilda's first husband.

Matilda married in 1894 to David Shillito Rennett.  He died on 22 December 1945.  I have sighted his probate record and his will refers to a son Ralph Rennett, and daughters May Vaughan Thomson and Ruby Luke.  The NZ DIA Index has birth registrations in 1937 (after the death of Matilda?) of May Vaughan Rennett, Ralph Rennett and Ruby Rennett.  There are some other children but they died young.
It is possible that with the exception of Robert and Edwin the father of all Matilda's other children was David Rennett but because she was not married to the father at the time of their birth NR has been recorded on the birth entries but some were re-registered in 1937.

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Re: James Marcus THOMSON died 10 April1942 Timaru
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 June 17 07:08 BST (UK) »
Thinking outside the box.......

Birth for George Wade (W.) Butcher not found on Free BMD, but maybe?:

Births Jun 1846   (>99%)

Wade    George Butcher        Norwich    13   249     Scan available -
Wade    George Butcher        Norwich    13   287     Scan available -


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: James Marcus THOMSON died 10 April1942 Timaru
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 June 17 10:53 BST (UK) »
Those are possibilities.  The way this family changes the use of their names makes it hard to trace them.
While looking at your possibilities I came across the following marriage notice:
"CAMPBELL-PIDWELL - At residence of Mr Pidwell on 23 inst, Edwin Butchers Campbell eldest son of Campbell Butchers of Timaru to Blanche (Winnie) fourth daughter of Joseph Pidwell of Wanganui".
Wanganui Herald 24 January 1902.

According to my research Edwin is not the eldest son; Robert Campbell Butcher is as he was born in 1874 and Edwin was born in 1881 in Timaru.  Their mother's name was Matilda Elizabeth Campbell DAVIS/DAVIES.

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Re: James Marcus THOMSON died 10 April1942 Timaru
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 June 17 05:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Wendy,

Marriage:

1850/3   Sarah Ann   Campbell   James Campbell   Davis

Birth:

1850/3261   Davis   Matilda Elizabeth   Sarah Ann   James


I wonder if this is the death of Matilda's mother?

1860/1931   Davis   Sarah Ann   27Y


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: James Marcus THOMSON died 10 April1942 Timaru
« Reply #13 on: Monday 26 June 17 03:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Minniehaha,

Thanks for your posting.  After some further research I found the following:

Sarah Ann's maiden name is VAUGHAN.  Her parents are Richard VAUGHAN and Mary SHEPPARD.

Sarah married Thomas PRATT on 17 April 1830, Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire.  Thomas died in 1843 at Wyderop, NZ (Wyderop is apparently slang for Wairarapa)

Sarah married James CAMPBELL on 9 December 1844 in the Wesleyan Chapel, Manners Street, Wellington, NZ (the chapel was destroyed in the 1848 earthquake)

Sarah then married James DAVIS on 16 October 1850, Pelichets Bay, Dunedin.  This area has apparently been reclaimed and is now Logan Park.

Sarah lastly married Robert DENT in 1872.

I will put this to one side and concentrate on May Vaughan Butcher and her daughter Ann Butcher, aka Doris Butcher aka Doris Craig.

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Re: James Marcus THOMSON died 10 April1942 Timaru
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 June 17 04:06 BST (UK) »
Further to my earlier posting the following is school lookup information:

Name: Ann BUTCHER
School: Normal School, Dunedin
Register Number: 1379
Admission Date: 21 September 1915
Parent/Guardian: Mrs J K Craig
Address: 410 King Street
Birthdate: 31 January 1910


Name: May RENNETT
School: Timaru Main
Register Number: 496
Admission Date: 4 December 1894
Parent/Guardian: Mrs M Rennett
Birthdate: 6 August 1889
Last School: None
Last Day: 28 September 1898
Destination: Upper School


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