MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW

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The sibling M.S. Armstrong in above post is

Death NSW BDM
1943  ARMSTRONG Margaret Sarah, father John, mother Jane at Muswellbrook

Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article161117656 and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article161123589
and http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article107701516

Marriage 1894
Margaret T[sic] McDonald to Wyndham F ARMSTRONG at Scone reg 6449
wedding http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article124724227

Ros

adding : probate https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/656877

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Cont ...

I haven't found a death for Wyndham Francis ARMSTRONG yet ... (searched NSW and Qld)

Death of a daughter Mrs Reg JACKSON in 1940

Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article158980911 says she was born in Queensland

NSW 1940 death
Kathleen JACKSON father Wyndham Francis, mother Margaret Sarah at Singleton reg 22959

QLD Birth
1899 Kathleen ARMSTRONG, father Wyndham Francis, mother Margaret Sarah McDONALD

Death 1981
John Octavius ARMSTRONG father Wyndham, mother Margaret

Ros

adding : engagement of other son Wyndham Eric ARMSTRONG http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article214503154

Death Qld
1979 Wyndham Eric ARMSTRONG, father Wyndham Francis ARMSTRONG, mother Margaret Sarah McDONALD reg B96667

There are a couple of files on naa.gov.au which have not been digitised for him, service number 35582, 1919

Also one for
ARMSTRONG John Octavius , Service Number - N447754, DOB 09 Jul 1896 , Aberdeen NSW , enlisted Upper Rouchel NSW, NOK Margaret ARMSTRONG

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Sibling Mary BROOKS ...  (sibling of John Alexander McDONALD bachelor)

Death NSW 1952 Mary Ann BROOKS, father John, mother Jane at Muswellbrook

Obit http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article107818506

Albert Richard BROOKS service record https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3129971

Ros

adding : their wedding http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article156363297

Her probate https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/816388

[Rosinish]

I do not know how reliable this is, as I do not have a MyHeritage subscription (will be working on getting one, though), but this is the info I have pulled from a quick search. Perhaps there may be something here? It mentions Mary McNeven and also another sibling that I had not seen before, Alexander McDonald.

Ferchan (Francis) Jnr. McDonald, 1821 - 1889
Ferchan (Francis) Jnr. McDonald was born in 1821, to Finlay McDonald and Catherine McDonald (born Fraser).
Finlay was born in 1796, in Inverness, Scotland.
Catherine was born in 1803, in Inverness, Scotland.
Ferchan had 7 siblings: Mary A. McNeven (born McDonald), Alexander McDonald and 5 other siblings.
Ferchan passed away 1889, at age 68 at death place.

If My Heritage is the same as online trees on Ancestry, FS (Family Search), F M P (FindMyPast), TP (Tribal Pages) or any other of similar then 'reliable' not unless there's documentary evidence/references/citations to doc. evidence which you can check yourself as they are all trees of individuals i.e. not sources.

There are 4 marriages on SP (scotlandspeople) one of which I posted earlier on this thread....

MCDONALD FINLAY & CATHARINE RAE 01/07/1814
098/80 298 Inverness

MCDONALD FINLAY & KATHARINE MCDONALD (FR347) 04/12/1819
100/10 571 Kilmorack (Posted earlier)

MACDONALD FINLAY & CATHARIN MCLEOD/ 03/06/1828
098/100 256 Inverness

MCDONALD FINLAY & CATHRINE FRASER (FR500) 15/03/1832
107/30 107 Urquhart and Glenmoriston
(Can be ruled out as they were having children after 1839 (Heber) journey)

I can't see any baptisms for the other 3 couples in Inverness-shire.


Annie

[Rosinish]

Aha...

Took the mother's name out of the search option i.e. no mother's name on Index...

MCDONALD FARQUHAR (Child)
FINDLAY MCDONALD (Father)
17/07/1819 ( Born prior to marriage)
100/10 640
Kilmorack


Will check for others.

Annie

[Rosinish]

Ferchan (Francis) Jnr. McDonald, 1821 - 1889
Ferchan (Francis) Jnr. McDonald was born in 1821, to Finlay McDonald and Catherine McDonald (born Fraser).
Ferchan had 7 siblings: Mary A. McNeven (born McDonald), Alexander McDonald and 5 other siblings.
Ferchan passed away 1889, at age 68 at death place.

So far...

MCDONALD FARQUHAR (No mother on Index)
FINDLAY MCDONALD (Father)
17/07/1819 (Born prior to marriage)
100/10 640
Kilmorack

MCDONALD ANNE (No mother on Index)
FINDLAY MCDONALD/
01/07/1821
100/10 643 Kilmorack

MCDONALD JOHN (No mother on Index)
FINDLAW (sic) MCDONALD 15/06/1823
100/10 645 Kilmorack

Annie

[majm]

Hi there,

I am repeating information from Jamjar (at reply #1) and myself several times since, but may I please suggest that you give serious consideration to actually obtaining official transcriptions of NSW BDM records.   In particular, the death certificate for the 1866 death of a Finley MCDONALD, aged 70 years, died Scone, registered Scone. #6568/1866 .  It will cost you about $20.00 Au and can be sent direct to you as a pdf attachment to an email.

Death: 6568/1866 Finley (sic) McDonald AGE 70 YEARS DIED SCONE SCONE
...

NSW BDM death registrations are quite detailed, and include burial information.   Several times in this thread you mention you seek confirmation about the roadside graves for Finlay and Catherine.   The NSW BDM death certificate information for "Finley" should give you confirmation of where he was buried, and it is likely that Catherine is buried alongside as per other sourced information I have posted on this thread.   

Here's the NSW BDM website with info about their Official Transcription Agents:
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

Here's the RChat thread re Official Transcriptions of NSW BDM records:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html

I am suggesting official transcriptions for several reasons:
a) official records being transcribed by experienced independent NSW based people, so NOT submitted factoidal material 'airbrushed' to suit their audience
b) cheaper than the 'real deal' certificate which is an image of a document written in 19th century longhand by various clerks
c)  Official transcriptions are recognised as providing valid official information by family history groups, professional genealogists and similar organisations and individuals (including regulars at RChat's Australia Board)
d) Info on NSW BDM INDEXES points to reference numbers on the official records.  Here's the NSW BDM blurb on what to expect on a NSW death cert (and of course on its official transcription):

Full name, sex, age, date & place of death, place of residence, occupation and marital status.

Place of marriage, age when married, full name of spouse. Children's name and ages. Parents' names and mother's maiden name.

Cause of death and duration of last illness. Burial or cremation date and place.


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/registry-records.aspx



JM

[rosball]

I am going to photograph Finlay McDonald's probate which *should* have his death cert.  It may be a week or two until I can get there but hopefully EB can wait and see whether it is there or not and what other info is there  before deciding whether to order a transcript.

Ros
(I'll try to get there earlier but ...)

[edited to clarify hopefully  ]

[Rosinish]

Another thought (which has just come back to me)......

It has been known for the name Finlay/Findlay to become PHILIP across the Atlantic.


Annie