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Gates/Keefe marriage
« on: Saturday 24 June 17 03:31 BST (UK) »
I am trying to trace the descendants of  Francis Gates, the brother of  Ann Norah Gates my  great
grand mother. He was born in 1843 in London. While i do not know who he married the
information i have is that his daughter  Annie born in 1880 married John James Keefe, born
in 1878 . They apparently had three children, John George in 1899, Thomas in 1903  and
Robert in 1909. Any assistance would be welcome.
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Re: Gates/Keefe marriage
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 June 17 05:29 BST (UK) »
Hi I just wonder if Annie Gates was born as FRANCES Annie Gates June qtr 1879 Pancras v16 page 105 mmn Butcher, as a Frances A is with this family in 1881 census:-

Francis Gates 39 b St Pancras
Harriett 45 b Lewes, Sussex
Lydia Hawkins 11 Step Daughter b St Pancras
Miriane Hawkins 5 Step Daughter b St Pancras
Frances A Gates 1 b St Pancras
Residing at 16, Myrtle Street, Islington
Census Ref RG11/267/66/10

Francis Gates looks to have married Harriet Hawkins March qtr 1879 Bethnal Green 1c 290
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Re: Gates/Keefe marriage
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 24 June 17 05:43 BST (UK) »
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                   I think you have them. The place of birth and the time line seems  to correspond
with what i know of him. Thanks very much.
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Re: Gates/Keefe marriage
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 24 June 17 06:28 BST (UK) »
Hi slight problem, when Annie Gates married John James Keefe 28th August  1898 St Thomas the Evangelist she named her father as GEORGE Gates occ General Dealer?
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Re: Gates/Keefe marriage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 24 June 17 07:22 BST (UK) »
New GRO Index all with mothers maiden name as BOLIN
Gates, Clara 1841 St Pancras
Gates Francis 1843 registered as female. Usually a girl is spelled Frances.
Gates, Margaret 1845
Gates Ann Norah 1847
Gates, Christopher 1850

All above at St Pancras

1851 census 1 Smith Place, St Pancras
Robert Gates (transcribed as Gales 35 boot and shoe maker
Ann 27 boot binder
Clara 10
Francis 8 listed as son not daughter
Margaret 6
Ann 4
Christopher 1
All above born St Pancras

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Re: Gates/Keefe marriage
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 24 June 17 07:36 BST (UK) »
1861 Thornly Place

Robert Gates 44 Shoe Maker 44 born St Giles
Bridget 38  born Ireland     
Clara 19
Frances 17 this time as a daughter
Ann 13
Christopher 11
Mary 4  (1856 mother maiden name BOLIN)
Robert 3months (mothers maiden name BOLIN 1861)

Re the GRO they had a previous Mary born 1852 St Pancras and a Mary Ann Gates death recorded St Pancras age 2 in 1854

I think two families have been confused Francis was registered as Female and in 1861 she is female aged 17.