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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:09 BST (UK) »
His 1929 Death Cert doesn't help much either - no parents names:

Joseph F? L? E? TYRRELL
Died 11 Oct 1929, aged 71 yrs, 6mths & 24 days
DoB 17 Mar 1859, born England
Married - wife Mary TYRRELL
Occupation: Salesman
Parents names: Not recorded
Informant: Mary TYRRELL of 515, North 41st St.

His  middle initial, as written on the certificate may be a badly formed E, has been transcribed as an L, and looks a bit like an F to me. 

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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:15 BST (UK) »
Joseph visited England in 1922, and returned to NYC on the Olympic in October.

The passport application names his father as James Tyrrell.
Date of birth 17 March 1859.
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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:15 BST (UK) »
many thank for the info bit of a quandary here; marriage 1899 Manhattan NY, Arrived New York 1 April 1890 out of Liverpool England,
Joseph GLOVER age 31, Grocer, England, Harrow, NY
Mary GLOVER 26, England, Harrow, NY
should that be joseph and mary tyrell
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Nope  ;D, they immigrated under the name of GLOVER in 1890.
They married 9 years later in 1899.
And on the 1900 US Census the year after they married, they said they'd been married 12 years....

This all points to something they are trying to avoid or evade. A first wife, perhaps - or husband?

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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:21 BST (UK) »
UK address given for the 1922 visit was Hook House, Basingstoke
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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:44 BST (UK) »
It does seem something or someone they were trying to avoid, mary jane  was my g/granfathers sister, many thanks for all the info
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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:47 BST (UK) »
Parents listed on marriage:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZN-77J

Theodosia NEWMAN didn't marry James TYRRELL until 1862 so I think Joseph must be the Joseph Evan NEWMAN born Mar Qtr 1858 Pewsey.
He's with his grandmother Ann Newman in 1861 as Evan NEWMAN.

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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 24 June 17 13:59 BST (UK) »
Great find Maureen  ;D  ;D
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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 24 June 17 14:04 BST (UK) »
BAPTISM:
Joseph Evan NEWMAN
Baptised 2 Apr 1858, in Parish of Manningford Abbots, Wilts
Mother: Theodosia NEWMAN, Singlewoman
Abode: Manningford

(No DoB on the Baptism record)

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Re: mary jane glover emigrated to usa post 1881
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 24 June 17 14:05 BST (UK) »
 ;) ;)
Thanks,Ambly.
He was throwing us a curve ball with the "born in Harrow" bit. :)

Maureen