Marriage James and Helen Greenhough c 1863

[Catherine Wait]

Hi, I am looking for the Helen Rowney Greenhough's maiden name - born c1845 in London. Husband James Greenhough born 1839 Manchester.  1871 census they are living in Holly Brook Cottage, Barton-upon-Irwell.  I can't find a marriage for them, I think her maiden name could be Laxton.  Would appreciate any help.

Regards
Catherine

[emeltom]

I can't find a James Greenhough marryina anyona called Helen. However there is a James Greenhough marrying June 1861 Manchester 8d 247 and one of the names given is Caroline Rowney Patterson.

Emeltom

[JJen]

A son called Harry Augustus Greenhough born 1863 birth record shows mother's maiden name Patterson.

On the 1881 'Helen' is recorded as Nellie 

JJ

[JJen]

Further details of marriage -

James Greenhough 24 bachelor Salesman
Father's name - James Greenhough Gentleman
Marriage 9 May 1863, St Mary, St Denys and St George, Manchester
Spouse's Name - Caroline Rowney Patterson 20 Spinster
Spouse's Father's Name - John Patterson, Gentleman
Wits - John Collier and Joseph John ?

JJ

[emeltom]

nellie is quite a common nickname or shortened version of Helen/Ellen/Eleanor and even Lillian. Just like Maggie or Peggy for Margaret for example. Quite how that came from Caroline, I don't know.

Emeltom

[Catherine Wait]

Hi, thanks to both of you for your help - Harry Augustus was the person I was actually researching!!  I have seen his mother referred to as Nellie, so that is understandable.  Helen / Caroline is quiet far removed from one another.  Could you tell me who else is in the household in 1881? I can't seem to find them on Findmypast

Thanks so much for your time and help
Catherine

[heatherjulie]

1881
Slack Lane (Hopwood), Monton
James Greenough Head 42 born Manchester Merchant
Nellie Greenough Wife 34 born Mitcham, Surrey
Harry A. Greenough Son 17 born Patricroft
Maude A. Greenough   Daughter 15 born Eccles
Gertrude R. Greenough Daughter 12 born Eccles
Percy B. Greenough   Son 11 born Eccles
Sydney L. Greenough   Son 8 born Eccles
Clarence R. Greenough Son 1 born Eccles
Laura G. Greenough Daughter 6 born Eccles

RG11/3883/6/6

[Catherine Wait]

Thanks for the census - James and family immigrate to New Zealand and on the youngest daughters birth her name is Helen as well as her death in New Zealand in 1920 her names are Helen Rowney Greenhough.  Could she have changed her name? I've even tried writing "Nellie" to see if it could be interpretted as Helen - possible but 3 times??

Catherine

[Annette7]

'Nellie' is a common name used by Helen/Ellen's and variants thereof.   My own grandmother was Ellen but always known as Nellie.

Annette