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Re: James McKenzie, Dundee
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 22:46 BST (UK) »
I think this could be Thomas in 1901?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003805202/

Just bringing this forward as a 'discard'

Even if he had changed religion (which can/does happen) this one doesn't fit as his birth year would be c1852 & we're looking for a 20 December 1859 birth.

Birth info. not known at time of posting original which was from the name of a sponsor on James' son James Jnr's bap.

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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Re: James McKenzie, Dundee
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 20 July 17 09:04 BST (UK) »
Annie
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I forgot to mention that my thinking when enquiring as to 'signing up in Edinburgh' was that it may have been a 'tradition' for older generations & carried down if indeed the ancestors hailed from the north which the surname had always suggested.
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Yes I understood that was the thinking, I just didn't answer it very adequately in my "although family ties sometimes came into play" in my reply.

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Re: James McKenzie, Dundee
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 20 July 17 18:35 BST (UK) »
I have spent most of the day searching for a James McKenzie born Edinburgh or Midlothian with a mother Margaret with both a John or Thomas as a father (things already searched prior to the yr of birth being nearer 1855) & I'm at a loss as I can't find anything to be a match for a birth year of 1852 - 1857  ::)

Even if he was illegitimate the only one I could find was 1856 with mother Jane McKenzie without using SP but he could have been born under any surname & using his father's surname which was not uncommon for illegitimate children (I have a few myself).

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ54-9Q8

From Isobel's ref. Reply #63 from MonicaL on the other link James' parents were both deceased by 1878

I checked the deaths on SP & Elizabeth died 1872, looks like John did too?

I read over the other link again for any clues from the wealth of info. they've provided...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574156.msg4264373#msg4264373

Plenty of scenarios to consider as I have done & pretty much exhausted every avenue almost.

I am currently looking at other possibilities & haven't had time to look at Irish census' & not sure if anyone else has for the Sponsor Thomas?

EDIT to add...

Forgot to say, I'm wondering if James was born under a different surname whether illegitimate or legitimate & if mother married/remarried was John/Thomas the name of a stepfather as I'm still baffled with those 2 forenames & too many scenarios  ::)

Edit..Is it possible James said 'Tom' the 1st time but mistaken as 'John'  :-\

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: James McKenzie, Dundee
« Reply #75 on: Thursday 20 July 17 20:45 BST (UK) »
Searched for a James (no surname) 1854 - 1856 Edinburgh (Midlothian)

A few worth considering for the moment. There's others born Leith, Stow, West Calder etc. but have stuck to Edinburgh births with no middle name..

Illegitimate all with a mother Margaret (not looked for later marriages or whether on later census' but keeps it all in 1 place) ..

James Adams 11 June 1855 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-4GS

James Stewart 07 Oct 1855 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-HFM

James Moffat 30 Dec 1855 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-KR9

James Hutchison 25 Jun 1856 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-JS3

James Camery 10 Aug 1856 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-CQ9

James Cowie 15 Jul 1856 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-924

James Slight 19 Dec 1856 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ5W-JMG

I found a few James' with a Military connection which is a bit of a long shot but have sent MaxD a PM with details & hoping for a look-up if only to eliminate them as it's the last chance saloon  ::)

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: James McKenzie, Dundee
« Reply #76 on: Saturday 22 July 17 14:45 BST (UK) »
Whil there is a lull in the proceedings, or perhaps an end, I want to express my heartfelt thanks to everyone involved in this search.  If I could I would buy each of you a libation of your choice.  The work done here is unbelivable. It will take me quite a While to go through it all.
Many, many thanks to you all, I am just sorry my mum is not around to see it.

Gerry.   ;)
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