English / Blair Marriage - More help needed please

[Shiny1]

Hi All (again),

I'm trying to tidy up some of my records and it's throwing up a few questions.

I have William English and Robertina Blair down as being married in South Shields in the last quarter of 1910.

I have struggled finding Robertina a bit but as far as I can tell both of them were born in North Shields (although Robertina is listed on the 1901 census as an "other relative" what ever that means) both of them lived and died in North Shields, so why would they cross the river to get married?

Any ideas?

Thanks again,

Michael

[trish1120]

They may have both been working in that area.

GRO Index Birth Reg;
BLAIR, ROBERTINA  CAMERON, Mothers MN   DENHAM****
GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 223

LAURENCE Blair Reg 1896 has same Mothers mn Deham

[trish1120]

Edward James Blair Marriage reg 1888 Tynemouth, Margaret Ann C Denham on same page.

[trish1120]

I must admit this is a confusing one

1891 Census
James Cameron, 81, Head, Mar, Retired Tailor, born Scotland
Margaret A Cameron, 68, Wife, born North Shields
Robert Cameron   , 36, Son, Unm, Labourer, born North Shields
Margt A Blair, 25, Daug, Mar, born North Shields
Margt A Blair, 2
Isabella Blair, 5/12

[JenB]

so why would they cross the river to get married

Perhaps at the time one of them or both of them were actually living there?
Perhaps they just felt like getting married away from home?
Perhaps they just fancied a nice day out?

There's no compulsion to get married where you live. Many of my County Durham ancestors living and working in the Consett area traipsed up to Newcastle to get married, but I have absolutely no idea why they did so 

[Tickettyboo]

Perhaps at the time one of them or both of them were actually living there?
Perhaps they just felt like getting married away from home?
Perhaps they just fancied a nice day out?

There's no compulsion to get married where you live. Many of my County Durham ancestors living and working in the Consett area traipsed up to Newcastle to get married, but I have absolutely no idea why they did so 

and in the same vein, a couple of hundred years from now, folk will be puzzling over why a couple from Tyneside got married in the Seychelles/Dominican Republic/another exotic location.
Maybe, way back when, Newcastle was considered posh and exotic, if you lived in Consett ? :-)

Boo

[River Tyne Lass]

This is not specific to your question, but you might like to know that they married on 15 October 1910 - looks like it took place in a registry office.

Best Wishes

[trish1120]

Not sure what you have so just posting this in case you dont have it;

1881 Census
James Camron   Head   M   69   Scotland
Margaret A Camron   Wife   F   59   No Shields, Northumberland, England
Robert Camron   Son   M   23   No Shields, Northumberland, England
Margaret Camron   Grand Daughter****   F   14   No Shields, Northumberland, England
James Mc Kaffie   Boarder   M   25   Scotland

Possible 1871 Census
James Cameron   Head   M   56   Ayre, Aymeshire
Margt Ann Cameron   Wife   F   48   North Shields, Northumberland
Hugh Robt Cameron   Son   M   17   North Shields, Northumberland

Taken from F/S.Org as Anc is down for me at the moment

[Shiny1]

I must admit this is a confusing one

Thanks for the help Trish, I'm pleased it's not just me. Having typed this out I think I might have worked it out as I've been doing it (for the past hour).

According to the 1901 Census

Edward J Blair (b1865) and Margaret AT Denham (b1866) are married.

Margaret A Blair, b1889 is a daughter
Isabel Blair, b1891 is a daughter
Daisy E Blair, b 1899 is a daughter
Robertina Blair, b 1893 is an other relative
Lawrence Blair, b1896 is an other relative

In 1911 Lawrence is listed as their son, they have another daughter, Elizabeth and it says they have had 7 children, 1 of whom has died. Robertina is married so has left home now.

Their father James has swapped his birth place from Gosforth to South Shields (where they are now living) and all the others have swapped from North Shields to South Shields as well.

The 1891 Census you referred to had Margaret and 2 daughters living with her parents. Edward was a coal trimmer so could it be as simple as he was away at sea and she was back with mam and dad?

That just leaves the puzzle of why her maiden name was Denham but her mam and dad are Cameron.

The 1911 census may also be answering the original question of why they married in South Shields - as JenB suggested - one of them was living there for a time.

Michael