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Offline rob g

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Lowther in Westmoreland
« on: Thursday 29 June 17 15:43 BST (UK) »
Hi. I have covered most of my family tree. But as ever some loose ends. my ancestor Peter Mitchell. B. Bolton 1831..wed mary Louther/lowther. Spellings alter. Born Yorkshire. 1833/4. she married him at st. Mary's church bury. 1852. On cert. her father. There Present. Was Robert Louther. Earthenware dealer. She was baptized along side her sister ann. in st Mary's bury  In 1835/6.  After she was married. To Peter Mitchell. she called  a daughter called Rebecca. It's a name that we dont find in the family much. Looking for Robert Louthers marriage. The only marriage I have came across with his name Robert lowther. Around 1830s.  was to a Rebecca young. it was at heversham. St Peter's church. 1828. The date would fit. And account for the daughter being called Rebecca.  There's lots of travellers called lowther in ulveston. And  The surnames are both travellers names. But I can't find any occupations  or census data. or further info. Any help would be appreciated. Regards rob
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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 June 17 16:00 BST (UK) »
Earthenware Dealer=what they called Potters?

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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 June 17 16:02 BST (UK) »
There is a baptism for a Mary at Bury 11 December 1835 (born 21 Feb)  - parents Robert & Rebecca - Roberts occupation Hawker
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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 July 17 07:25 BST (UK) »
There is another Baptism for a Mary Lowther at Bury, giving the parents abode ..... FreeReg

Bury, Lanchashire, St Mary the Virgin
Baptism date   21 Feb 1836
Birth date   23 Nov 1833
Name Mary
Abode Hadderton near Leeds Yorkshire
Father Robert  LOWTHER
Father occupation   Hawker
Mother forename   Rebecca
   
Is Hadderton? Chadderton near Leeds? Yorkshire West Riding
Is this a 2nd Mary Lowther born to them?

https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 July 17 07:49 BST (UK) »
Free Reg offers this up for Ann Lowther:

Bury, Lancashire, St Mary the Virgin
Baptism date   21 Feb 1835
Birth date   11 Dec 1835
Name   Ann
Abode   Bolton
Father Robert Lowther
Father occupation   Hawker
Mother Rebecca

https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 July 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
Hi
Sorry for the delay - thank you for the PM - But mary married my 4 times g father  but I just can't locate her Lowther family in census data. Looked at 1841_51_61. Nothing.

Could this be another sister  :-\
1 Jan 1851 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Charles Howarth - Full age, Earthenware Dealer abode Great Bolton
Jane Lowther - Minor, Spinster, abode Little Bolton
Groom's Father John Howarth, Earthenware Dealer
Bride's Father Robert Lowther, Earthenware Dealer

and sister Ann
26 Feb 1856 St Mary the Virgin, Bury
Swales Young - age 22, occ Iron Dealer, Bachelor, abode Burnley
Ann Lowther - age 22, Spinster, abode Bury
Groom's Father John Young, Iron Dealer
Bride's Father Robert Lowther, Glass & China Dealer

Swales & Ann are in Burnley 1871 - RG10/4146 f100 p22 and Berwick in Tweed in 1881.  ;D
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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 July 17 16:42 BST (UK) »
Baptism for Jane  :-\
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSHJ-N9C

Jane Lowther
Christening 14 Mar 1832
Parochial Chapelry, Barnard-Castle, Durham
Father   Robert Lowther
Mother   Rebecca
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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 23:46 BST (UK) »
There is something in the British Newspaper archives about Mr Robert Lowther, Earthenware Dealer.

Mr. Robert Lowther, earthenware dealer
Published: Saturday 28 August 1869
Newspaper: Kendal Mercury
County: Cumbria, England
Type: FamilyNotice

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
Keywords: Robert Lowther, Earthenware Dealer

If Rob signs up to the British newspaper archive he can get 3 free pages

Wondering what the event was in 1869, a death perhaps? Did he die in Hanniston near Hawkshead, Cumbria?

Is Robert Lowther earthenware dealer still alive in 1871 census?

This could be his death registration in 1869? Freebdm
Deaths Sep 1869 
Lowther    Robert    61    Ulverstone    8e   443
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Lowther in Westmoreland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 02:37 BST (UK) »
Here is a Rebecca Lowther (widow, nee young) marriage

Marriage: 17 Jul 1837 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Veary Earthenware dealer (a minor)
Rebecca Lowther Earthenware dealer, (a Widow)
Groom's Father: William Veary, Earthenware dealer
Bride's Father: James Young, Earthenware dealer

A William Varey was a witness at Jane Lowthers marriage to Charles Howarth in 1851
   
If this is Rebbeca Young who married Robert Lowther in 1828, was that Robert Lowther deceased after Ann's baptism 1835 but before 1837?

There must be a reason why the Lowthers don't appear in a census
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)