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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 02 July 17 14:43 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon,

Good afternoon,

Interestingly there are loops sewn on above the GSM to carry the medal but nothing above the other ribbon. That tells me the medal was never worn at all.

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Not necessarily so, it may only have required the two loops if the medals were on a double bar. I posses a uniform with only three loops but it was worn with six medals, I have the medals also.

Your loops would have been spread along the length of your ribbons therefore keeping the medals level. If you hung two medals on the one pictured they would have hung crooked because the one medal would have had no support.

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 02 July 17 15:08 BST (UK) »
I can say without doubt that the ribbon is definitely gold and green. I've even put white yellow and cream objects next to it so as to prove I'm not actually going colour blind lol

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 02 July 17 15:17 BST (UK) »
The dutch medal seems to an old one - not sure how that tallies with the other ribbon and the uniform.

Would you be able to rephotograph the ribbon to try to get closer to the real colour (maybe with something white beside it for contrast)? I know computer monitors vary but it looks almost pure white on mine. :)

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 02 July 17 15:35 BST (UK) »
See my "lecture" earlier about other parameters - the first image that Google puts up for the term de eervolle vermelding medal is the one Ruskie points to in the other document.

It is a dutch medal for the equivalent of a mention in despatches in the Aceh War of 1873-1880

It is in remarkably good condition for a British Army padre of the 1960s/70s to be wearing.

Josey - your earlier post quite made my day. 

Ruskie - thanks for the other "off colour" pic which might (??) help (just seen your latest)

John - thanks for your support for Ruskie's spot at the beginning.

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 02 July 17 16:49 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure that my link to the current Royal Netherlands Army definitive document on dress, orders and decorations worked just in case it didn't, here it is again in another form

http://docplayer.nl/16631171-Tenuen-voor-militairen-van-de-koninklijke-landmacht-voorschrift-2-1593.html  pages 9-49 to 9-53

It does not include a ribbon anything like the one on the tunic.

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 02 July 17 19:44 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

The dutch medal ribbon is for one of two medals.

First, Decoration for  Important Military Acts. Extant apr 1815 to mar 1944. Given for bravery not eligible for the M***** William Order. ( forgotten what the m is).

The same ribbon is also used for the "Expedition Cross" also known as the Cross for important military operations (Dutch equivilent to GSM).  Extant feb 1869 to 1942,  has a total of 33 possible clasps all in the far east.

The colours are described as orange yellow and pale green

The medal and ribbon were also used to carry the Dutch equivalent to the MiD.

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Added, M is for Military, Important Mention is the MiD.
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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 02 July 17 20:10 BST (UK) »
John915 -I hope you will agree that the appearance of either of those two medal ribbons alongside a British GSM on a British Padre's uniform of the 60s/70s  is an aberration too far!

 It is of course up to the original poster to accept, or not, our thoughts.  I for one feel that I have contributed all I can to this query.

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 02 July 17 20:47 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

I have to agree maxD, had this been the Dutch bravery medal then it should appear in front of the British GSM.

So it has to be the Dutch version GSM, which ended its life 20 years before the British GSM started it's life. Something not right there, my view is that the Padre only had the GSM. Once on the open market someone has added the other not knowing what they were doing. That would also explain the lack of medal hanging loop above it. they didn't have the medal only a ribbon.

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Re: Medal ribbon
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 02 July 17 20:59 BST (UK) »
Dutch medal ribbons can be seen here:
http://www.onderscheidingen.nl/

(It's in Dutch! But Vorige means "Previous" and Volgende means "Next")

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