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Offline Roy G

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In laws of Cornelius England
« on: Friday 30 June 17 11:30 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have a Cornelius England marrying an Eliza Mitchell in Alderbury, Wiltshire, c 1853 and am trying to find out who their respective sets of parents were?

Cornelius born c 1826 was the son of Phoebe (daughter of Betty England) who also seems to have had a later relationship with a Robert Palmer, but I have nothing to say that Robert was also his father.

Similarly I have no parents for Eliza born c1825, but I just wonder if she is from the same Mitchell family that crosses my ancestral path about a decade later.  (It was a decade later that my GG widowed gran Ann Grant nee Petty, married a John Mitchell born 1821) 

So does anyone have access to copy marriage records for Alderbury, Wiltshire?

Regards Roy G

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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 June 17 14:49 BST (UK) »
There is a copy of the banns with a note that Eliza Mitchell left the parish after the first set and interestingly banns from 1851 between Cornelius England and Harriet Mitchel.

Sisters perhaps?

Can't see any marriage with parents I'm afraid.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 June 17 14:54 BST (UK) »
Baptism for an Eliza Mitchel born Rockbourne Hampshire 25 Dec 1824

parents Joseph and Marianne

birthplace matches census

Maybe there is a baptism for Harriet with same parents -

- and actually there is - 1 Nov 1831 Rockbourne Hampshire so they were sisters
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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 June 17 16:02 BST (UK) »
1851 Eliza is possibly visiting in Milford, Wiltshire;
James Mitchell, 32, Head, Mar, born Wooden, Wiltshire
Jane Mitchell, 34, Wife. Mar, born Charlton, Wiltshire
Mary Ann Mitchell, 20, Lodger, (Sister) born Rockbourne, Hampshire
ELIZA Mitchell, 26, Visitor, Servant, born Rockbourne, Hampshire

ELLEN Mitchel christened 5 Jan 1835 Rockbourne to Joseph/Marianne
+ EMILY 26 May 1836

Leads to 1841 Census St Edmund, Wiltshire;
Joseph Mitchell   40, Labourer
Mary Mitchell   40
John Mitchell   20, Labourer
Ann Mitchell   15
Mary Mitchell   11
Harriett Mitchell   9
Ellen Mitchell   7
Emily Mitchell   5
George Mitchell   2

Joseph/Mary/John all born Wiltshire. Last Child George born Wiltshire also
All other Children not born in County

GRO Birth Reg;
MITCHELL, GEORGE, Mothers mn SPRATT******
GRO Reference: 1838  D Quarter in FORDINGBRIDGE  Volume 08  Page 165

Trish :)
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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 June 17 16:28 BST (UK) »
MARRIAGE;
1818, St John the Baptist, Bishopstone (Wilton), Wiltshire
Joseph MITCHELL to Mary Ann SPRATT
Witnesses etc;
Thomas Smith/Ann Mitchell
Other Witness William SCAPLEN; Officiating Minister Thomas BROMLEY; Banns
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1851 Census
Winterbourne Gunner, Wiltshire
Joseph Mitchell, 51, Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born Bishopstone, Wiltshire
Marianne Mitchell, 31, Wife, Mar, born Britford, Wiltshire
Emily Mitchell, 14, Daug, born Rockbourne, Hampshire**
George Mitchell, 12, Son
Francis Mitchell, 1, Son
Infant Mitchell, 1mth, Son

ENNIS Mitchell
Gender:   Male
Baptism Date:   13 Apr 1851
Baptism Place:   Winterbourne Gunner,Wiltshire,England
Father:   Joseph Mitchell
Mother:   Mary Ann

GRO has him as ENOS, Mothers mn PALMER



MARRIAGE Familysearch.Org;
3 September 1848, Fisherton Anger, Wiltshire, England
Joseph MITCHELL to Mary Ann PALMER
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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 June 17 23:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that'
It now looks like the family tie I suspected is a possibility.

Its conceivable that the John you found on the 1841 census is the same john that appears in the last of these family marriages of mine in Winterborne Stoke.
Ann Petty    b WBS 3 Feb 1837   died 1901
m1 Thomas Grant   WBS 4 Dec 1856
m2 John Mitchell           WBS 14 Aug 1859

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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 July 17 07:42 BST (UK) »
Further thanks Trish
It was not until after I started to add the information you sent to my tree that I realised how much useful info you had sent.

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Re: In laws of Cornelius England
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 July 17 08:38 BST (UK) »
Your welcome RoyG :)
I see the 1859 Marriage is on F/S and Johns Father is Joseph.
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