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Immigration/Emmigration.
« on: Saturday 01 July 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
Arnold Swinnerton born Stoke on Trent England 1870.
He went to Canada in 1903 and sailed on the Tunisian to St John's.

Arnold was later to be found to have enlisted for WW1 in the West Lancs
Brigade RFA on 24 April 1915. But he was discharged on the 30th 'having made a false statement on his attestation form.

He was then shown on the electoral for Foleshill in 1930.  He is supposed to have died in Coventry but I have not found it or when he came back from Canada.

Can anyone see him?

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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 July 17 19:33 BST (UK) »
Spent quite a time looking for Arnold today but if he is in Canada he is very elusive  ::)

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 July 17 19:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your time Sandra.

Arnold was very elusive over here as well.

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 July 17 20:24 BST (UK) »
There is a 1908 passenger list with a 35 year old Arnold Swinnerton. He is designated as a returning Canadian and has been in Canada for 6 years which approximates the previous entry. His destination is Montreal. Relatively unusual name.....same person?

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 July 17 20:33 BST (UK) »
Well polarbear,

You have just thrown it wide open again.
Previous posts seem to indicate that Arnold was sailing as a crew member across the Atlantic.

Thats a good find. But that puts him back in Canada 1908.
How and when did he get back to Liverpool England in 1915?

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 July 17 21:26 BST (UK) »
Wonder what he lied about....

There is apparently a Boer War record for an Arnold Swinnerton (f m p website). Service was apparently with Brabant's Horse as a trooper. This seems to match the WW1 attestation. Images are not online but there may be something available through the National Archives.

There also seems to be an Arnold Roy Swinnerton in an Australian electoral roll in 1949 (same website).

PB

Added: to me, the Foleshill entry reads Dyer, John Arnold Swinnerton? As in John Arnold Swinnerton Dyer?
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Re: Immigration/Emmigration.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 July 17 22:50 BST (UK) »
polarbear,

It seems perhaps that Arnold may have lied about his age when he enlisted in 1915.
He would have been 46 years of age then. He was only in six days then discharged
'having made a false statement on his attestation form'

Interesting what you said about a Australian Arnold Roy Swinnerton.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 July 17 10:39 BST (UK) »
This might just be a wild goose chase, but do these signatures seem to be the same person?
Top signature is from your fellow's attestation form, and the bottom one is from a series called
Canada, Nominal Rolls and Paylists for the Volunteer Militia, 1857-1922
1910  - 12th Regiment, York Rangers
 Unfortunately the loops from the signature below run into the second name a bit.

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 July 17 11:28 BST (UK) »
bbart,

Well yes it could very well be the same persons writing,especially the 'A'.
Is there any more information about the Volunteer militia ?

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