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Re: Wellinton Archives ITM
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 00:27 BST (UK) »
Hi again

I have been sifting through the books and found these:



1900 Bergen census - Johan Møllerup and wife: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/37335/9362/indv2

1900 Bergen census - Ulrik Møllerup and family: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/37335/18414/indv2

1909 Burial nr 3 - Ulrik Møllerup buried in Solund Parish (He died in Bergen 12 Jan 1909): https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/6932/80630/10



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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 00:31 BST (UK) »
and finally:

1885 census:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kcn/


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Re: Wellinton Archives ITM
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 05:45 BST (UK) »
Thank ever so much for all the information on Johannes family.

Regards
KT   :)
O'BRIEN, Castlemaine, Country Kerry, Ireland to Blenheim NZ.
O'SULLIVAN, Co Kerry, Ireland, to Blenheim, NZ.
WALSH, Weatherstown, Glemore, Ireland  to Waikato -Auckland - & other parts NZ and now NSW & QSLD
CURRAN - County Mayo to Waikato
FOSTER - Devonport, Eng -other parts of NZ
WILLIAMS - Devonshire, Eng to Dunedin NZ and other parts of NZ
McCORMACK - Tipperary -to AUS to NZ
ANDERTON - Eng - AUS- NZ (Hawkes Bay - Auckland)

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 08:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks KT

I am sorry I cannot help out with Johannes' death but anything from Scandinavia is not a problem. I have though seen the Gisborne record from The New Zealand Gazette on Ancestry.


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Re: Wellinton Archives ITM
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 11:29 BST (UK) »
Quote from: kiwi-terrier
Is there a passenger list for this boat .

Hi KT...

From what Ian has found it's quite possible that your man was crew. If he fell overboard you would think it would be mentioned in the crew list agreement, especially as the Agreement has a section entitled...

"PARTICULARS OF DISCHARGE
To be filled in by the Master upon Discharge, Death or Desertion of any member of his crew"


In 1892 the only British registered vessel named Gartmore had the official number 90037

1892 - British Registered Sailing Vessels
http://tinyurl.com/ydcdbgo6

The Maritime History Archive has an E2 Agreement (i.e crew list) from 1893 for that vessel

Maritime History Archive
http://tinyurl.com/y87awyqb

Be aware that research carried out by the Maritime History Archive is reeeeeal expensive ($50-ish).

Ordering Copies of Crew Agreements (Crew Lists)
https://www.mun.ca/mha/about/orderagreements.php

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Not sure if there is a UK version of Spades :) but you might try asking for a lookup of the following ... not sure if it's a crew list or just details of the vessel... I suspect the latter

The National Archives - UK
http://tinyurl.com/y8lxkkqx

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For what it's worth, the National Archives (UK) has another Gartmore from the same period.

The National Archives - UK
http://tinyurl.com/y6vmx5m9

This vessel has the official number 79229 but that corresponds to the steamship Bedford so I'm guessing the National Archives has it wrong.

1892 - British Registered Steam Ships
http://tinyurl.com/y9xhvgvn

Either way, the Maritime History Archive has an 1893 crew list for that vessel as well...

Maritime History Archive
http://tinyurl.com/y7lsr3sd

Regards
Beg


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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 12:59 BST (UK) »
A John MOLLER was on board the Gartmore in Sept 1893, fell overboard and drowned.

Just re-read Johannes' Naturalization Record from 17 May 1893 and noticed his occupation was Labourer. He may then not have been a seaman at that time.


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« Reply #24 on: Thursday 06 July 17 08:52 BST (UK) »
Ian & Beg

Just trying to eliminate this John MOLLER. I know that John was a Labourer and was in Gisborne 1892/1893  as I have compared his signature from the naturalisation form to a probate that he was witness to in Gisborne 1892. Did not return to Norway . He doesn't appear after 1893 in any ER, Just disappeared. Wonder why Benta waited until 1898 to remarry when she had a child in 1896 to Carl and registered Carl as the father in Timaru (  must get printout to see what else she put down, only have certificate) appeared in Auckland 1896 using the name WAHLSTROM. Carl was also a mariner and traveled around NZ.

Thanks any for all your help
KT
O'BRIEN, Castlemaine, Country Kerry, Ireland to Blenheim NZ.
O'SULLIVAN, Co Kerry, Ireland, to Blenheim, NZ.
WALSH, Weatherstown, Glemore, Ireland  to Waikato -Auckland - & other parts NZ and now NSW & QSLD
CURRAN - County Mayo to Waikato
FOSTER - Devonport, Eng -other parts of NZ
WILLIAMS - Devonshire, Eng to Dunedin NZ and other parts of NZ
McCORMACK - Tipperary -to AUS to NZ
ANDERTON - Eng - AUS- NZ (Hawkes Bay - Auckland)

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Re: Wellinton Archives ITM
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 16 July 17 01:25 BST (UK) »
Will close this know, death will remain unknown at this stage.

Thank you every one, including Ian for his help.
O'BRIEN, Castlemaine, Country Kerry, Ireland to Blenheim NZ.
O'SULLIVAN, Co Kerry, Ireland, to Blenheim, NZ.
WALSH, Weatherstown, Glemore, Ireland  to Waikato -Auckland - & other parts NZ and now NSW & QSLD
CURRAN - County Mayo to Waikato
FOSTER - Devonport, Eng -other parts of NZ
WILLIAMS - Devonshire, Eng to Dunedin NZ and other parts of NZ
McCORMACK - Tipperary -to AUS to NZ
ANDERTON - Eng - AUS- NZ (Hawkes Bay - Auckland)