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Re: John and Caroline Powell Birmingham cant find in 1901 or 1911 - HELP!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 05:58 BST (UK) »
Had a quick look and the only Margaret and Louisa POWELL's born around the right time in the Birmingham area to match the 1901 census have different mother's maiden names (Margaret b 1898 mmn COLEY and Louisa b 1901 mmn BURTON).

I suspect this could be the right family, but ages are very odd.  ??? Still looking for a marriage ...

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Re: John and Caroline Powell Birmingham cant find in 1901 or 1911 - HELP!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 06:32 BST (UK) »
Still looking for a marriage, however I think this may be Caroline - birth registered Oct qtr 1862 Birmingham, mmn SHAW. Baptism 9 Nov 1862 at ST CHad, Birmingham Father: Gulielmi FOXALL (William), Mother: Elizabeth Shaw FOXALL.

I think she is a pauper on the 1871 at Wolverhampton (GBC/1871/2941/0313)

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Re: John and Caroline Powell Birmingham cant find in 1901 or 1911 - HELP!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 05 July 17 09:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your help Maddys52 and Jomot
I seem to have unearthed more questions than answers!  Any additional help or matching up would be really appreciated.  Hope to hear any further finds and finally some answers! :-)

Rayson - Bedworth pre 1880 and Manchester post 1880
Mills - Ireland pre 1850 and Manchester post 1850
Baxendale - Wigan pre 1850 and Manchester post 1850
Tallis - Bedworth pre and post 1850

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Re: John and Caroline Powell Birmingham cant find in 1901 or 1911 - HELP!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 July 17 01:34 BST (UK) »
Hi
I have information that confirms John was definitely alive after 1911 as one of his daughters (Louisa) got married in 1916 and he is not listed as deceased. Likewise one of his other daughters (Margaret) who married in 1904 he is not listed as deceased. On these 2 marriages and another son's marriage (John) in 1909 he is working as a Caster as his occupation.

Just to say that there was no requirement to state whether the father was living or dead, so the lack of the word 'deceased' doesn't necessarily mean he was still alive - not that we can find him either way! 

I don't suppose there were any helpful witness names on any of these marriages?
GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham. MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. JACKSON: East Yorks, North Yorks, Durham. TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: John and Caroline Powell Birmingham cant find in 1901 or 1911 - HELP!
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 July 17 07:24 BST (UK) »
Yes I know what you mean and that had crossed my mind. But all 3 of the children's marriages between 1904 and 1916 have him alive shall we say.
Also no witnesses of any note to assist either  :'(
Rayson - Bedworth pre 1880 and Manchester post 1880
Mills - Ireland pre 1850 and Manchester post 1850
Baxendale - Wigan pre 1850 and Manchester post 1850
Tallis - Bedworth pre and post 1850