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Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« on: Thursday 06 July 17 21:42 BST (UK) »
Good evening all,

I'm hoping someone out these can help me.  On my GGGrandmothers birth register (b.1865), her 'where born' reads, 'Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wynd, Dundee'. I have had a long look online and can find information on various 'Land's' in the city but I can't seem to find anything on Bruce's Land. I can find a little information on Mill's West Wind but it's all very vague. I may be looking in the wrong places!

Can anyone help? I'd love to know where in the city it is/was and any information about it.

Thank you in advance,

Jenni

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 July 17 22:28 BST (UK) »
I think Mill's West Wynd should actually be.....

MILLARS WYND WEST SIDE

From 1865 Valuation Rolls on SP?

Annie


South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 July 17 22:33 BST (UK) »
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 July 17 02:01 BST (UK) »
What was her address in the 1871 census?
What was her parent's address in 1861 before she was born?

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 July 17 02:29 BST (UK) »
To follow on from Ruskie's question...

Can you please provide parents names & father's occupation as names & occupations can sometimes be easier to trace than addresses initially?

The VRs have nothing on Bruce's Land  ::)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 July 17 02:40 BST (UK) »
John Wood's town plan of Dundee from 1821 shows Miller's Wynd as EAST Wynd. Next road west is Mid Wynd, then West Wynd and Stewart's Wynd.

I haven't found any mention of Bruce's Land yet.  I wonder if it was a name in use locally rather than an "official" address?  :-\ Or perhaps an old name which went out of favour, which is why I was looking at maps older than 1861.  :-\

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 July 17 03:00 BST (UK) »
Jhan,

Sorry if you find this offensive but..

Can you please post a 'snippet' with the address just to make sure it does say 'Bruce's Land' & not something similar but of course depending on the accent of the person giving/taking the information, could they have been Irish or other & 'Bruce' be 'Bryce'  ???

Just trying to help  :)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 July 17 03:06 BST (UK) »
Jhan,

Have you found the family in any census with the same address?

Did they have other children born at the same address?

I'm unsure if the VR Record of that year would reveal anymore than 'Millars/Miller's Wynd' but it may be worth checking out?

If I'd have known the name I would have had a look but there were far too many to take a chance.


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Bruce's Land, Mill's West Wind, Dundee?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 July 17 03:07 BST (UK) »
Funny you should mention that Annie. I was just wondering if the comma was moved we would have Bruce's Land Mills, West Wynd, Dundee, but your suggestion to check "Bruce" is a good one.
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I am not sure where to look for landholders called Bruce, but if I understand it correctly, this is the meaning behind the "Somehting" Lands? I've seen "Lands" before in Scotland but generally in the  ountryside, but that may be more to do with abodes I generally look for.  :)