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London Embarkation Record 1634
« on: Friday 07 July 17 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Here is a snippet from a FindMyPast London Embarkation Record of 1634, and I would like to have a name deciphered. I have indicated the name with an arrow in the attachment. The list seems to be of soldiers attached to a regiment..  I would like to know the destination if possible.

Does anyone know if an entry on one of these London Embarkation records would help someone leave the UK on a later embarkation to America?. The FindMyPast entries are from the National Archives and are described as " registrations for licenses to pass beyond the seas"
Does a registration act as a sort of passport and could it be used to "Jump Ship"? Also could a passenger initially registered for Army service use the registration to leave for a later destination, such as America, at a later date?

Note: The FindMyPast recorded dates are for registrations, and the actual embarkation dates (in American records) are sometimes many months later..

Your help is always appreciated, and I greatly admire the expertise on this Forum!

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Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :)
Pugh, Powell, Williams, Maddox, Prosser

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Re: London Embarkation Record 1634
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 July 17 05:58 BST (UK) »
Nymingham is the destination.

Ryce Pughe is the name

There is a chance that his forename is Rycd = Richard.

However I believe the final letter is an e, as a d should have the hard backwards slant as seen in conducted and wyndham.  There is also no evidence of a contraction mark.

ADDED:

I wondered where Nymingham was.  A search turned up this publication.  On the fourth page is an apparent reference to the same Regiment - Nymingham/Captain Griffin/Colonel Morgan.

ADDED 2:  forgot the link...

http://northwesternpa.net/photos/Genealogy-glh19901292.pdf

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Re: London Embarkation Record 1634
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 July 17 06:09 BST (UK) »
Here is the heading in full:

20 Marcij 1634

To Nymingham for Capten Griffin of the Regiment
of Coll. Morgan conducted by lieuten(an)t wyndham p(er) warr(an)t.

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Re: London Embarkation Record 1634
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 July 17 06:57 BST (UK) »
To Horseleydown86
Hello once again!
Yes that is probably Ryce Pugh (maybe Pughe). Rhys was an ancient Welsh name and was often written as Rice or Rees as time went on.
Do you think the last letter of Pugh really includes an "e"?
I would never have thought that the first letter of Ryce was an "R" !!!
Many thanks for saving my headache!
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Re: London Embarkation Record 1634
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 July 17 16:29 BST (UK) »
Do you think the last letter of Pugh really includes an "e"?

Fair question, Llanfi.

It's a judgement call - looking at it again I'd probably say 70% for No and 30% for Yes.

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Re: London Embarkation Record 1634
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 July 17 21:54 BST (UK) »
Pughe was the "aristocratic" surname. Pugh was for tradespeople, more in keeping for an ordinary soldier off to fight in Europe... From "Ap Hugh" There was a John ap Hugh, tradesman, on the "Second Supply' bound for Jamestown about the same time....  I think the soldier had a better chance of surviving!
See https://cdn.loc.gov/service/gdc/lhbcb/0262b/0262b.pdf
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