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Offline Wodgemac

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Griffith Jones
« on: Friday 07 July 17 13:43 BST (UK) »
I've been struggling for over ten years with the Welsh side of my family tree and I've followed a few wrong leads.
I know this is a long shot because of the surname, but any help would be greatly appreciated.
My Great Grandfather Griffith Henry Jones was born in Manchester in 1867, (I don't have any birth records just census).
The 1881 census in Manchester states that his father was Griffith Jones 54 a labourer (not employed) and his mother was Eliza 57, both born in Denbighshire. He also had a brother William 30 born in Denbighshire and a sister Harriet 19 born in Manchester.
I can't find the family anywhere during the 1871 census.
I have found a record of a Griffith Jones marrying an Elizabeth Williams in 1846 in St. Asaph, but I'm not sure if that's them.
Another possible white elephant is that I found a birth record for Griffith Jones in 1866 in Hulme, Manchester with his father Griffith, but his mother is named as Ann. The year and the area could possibly be true, but obviously Ann isn't.
Could anybody possibly give me any advice on searching for such a common surname, or point me in the right direction for Welsh records
Kind regards
Richard McGrorey
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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:10 BST (UK) »
Bit time consuming but you could look on the GRO birth index for the 3 children and cross reference the mothers maiden names to see if there is a common match for all 3  :-\

Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:12 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have you considered the family living at Monks Coppenhall in 1861  :-\
RG09/2616 f24 p42

Griffith Jones   29   occ Puddler   bn Wassell, Denbighshire
Eliza      36   bn Coven, Denbighshire
William   10   bn Coven, Denbighshire
Alfred   6   bn Tunstall, Staffordshire
Robert   3   bn Monks Coppenhall, Cheshire
John 9 months bn M.C. Cheshire
Sarah 9 months bn M.C. Cheshire

Poss births for John/Sarah
Births Sep 1860   
JONES    John        Nantwich    8a   268    
JONES    Sarah        Nantwich    8a   268
GRO index gives mmn WILLIAMS
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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:13 BST (UK) »
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My Great Grandfather Griffith Henry Jones was born in Manchester in 1867, (I don't have any birth records just census).

The 1881/1891 census give Openshaw as place of birth.

Ancestry links to the birth in Sep 1868 West Derby mothers name Parry.
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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:23 BST (UK) »
The family are in Openshaw in 1871  ;D
RG10/3983 f23 p40
Griffith 40 occ Puddler
Elizth 47
William 20
Alfred 16
Robert 13
Sarah 11
Harriet 8
Griffith 5
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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:24 BST (UK) »
Well there we go  :D

A family tree has mother Elizabeth death in 1878 so could the Eliza in 1881 be a second wife? 
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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:25 BST (UK) »
1871 Census 18 Libby Street Openshaw,
Griffith Jones age 40 born Wales
Eliza     Jones      47           "
William 20      born Wales
Alfred 16 born Staffordshire
Robert 13 born Crewe
Sarah 11 born Crewe
Harriet 8 born Openshaw
Griffith 5 born Openshaw

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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:29 BST (UK) »
Possible family 1851 Census Cefn Mawr, Ruabon, Denbighshire
Griffith Jones born 1829 Hope Flintshire
Eliza Jones born 1825 Ruabon, Denbighshire
William Jones (3 months born) 1851 Ruabon, Denbighshire


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Re: Griffith Jones
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 July 17 14:59 BST (UK) »
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My Great Grandfather Griffith Henry Jones was born in Manchester in 1867, (I don't have any birth records just census).

The 1881/1891 census give Openshaw as place of birth.

Ancestry links to the birth in Sep 1868 West Derby mothers name Parry.

Could this be Harriets
JONES, HARRIET       mmn WILLIAMS     
1862  June Quarter
WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 267

and possibly Griffiths  :-\
JONES, GRIFFITH       mmn WILLIAMS     
1866  June Quarter
WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 306

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