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Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« on: Saturday 08 July 17 10:17 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am trying to find the birth of Harcourt Leonard Hartnett he was rumoured among his family to have been born in New Zealand or Newcastle, Australia but no records have been found.  I have no idea when he was born?? His daughter Monica was born 1931, Parramatta, Nsw.

If anyone can help that would be great!

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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 July 17 11:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandy,

His birth might have registered under a different spelling, perhaps.

Are you able to gain access to his Australian Army personnel file? That would no doubt provide an answer

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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 July 17 11:52 BST (UK) »
I was told by a member of the family that apparently he lied about his age when he joined the army!

Sandi
I live in New Zealand BUT am a true blue, loyal Aussie.
Bridgeman (Kent); Johnson (Cheshire); Bidgood (Wiltshire); Bridgeman,
Anger (Germany); Haddock (Ireland);
Pickeral (Staffordshire); Mueller (Germany);
Gillis/Gillies (Qld., Australia); Hirning (Germany)
Eyles and Primmer (Hampshire)


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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 July 17 22:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandi

Looking at the NZ Birth Index (@ ancestry), two males with same forenames, different surnames (born 1886 and 1891) ... but both found to have died in New Zealand.

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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 July 17 22:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandi

FindMyPast has 2 Australian marriages that may be him

Harcourt L    Hartnett to Gladys M    Misdall
Marriage year    1924
Sydney,New South Wales
Registration number    406

the second one

Harcourt L   Hartnett to Violet L Graham
Marriage year    1930
Newtown,New South Wales
Registration number    9002

This may also be him but unfortunately no age

New South Wales, Macquarie Park Cemetery Transcriptions 1922-2001
H L   Hartnett
died 22 Mar 1990
 Anglican
Inscription    M.B.E. (Small metal plaque)
Section    K
Row    5
Number    22
Graves    1

Cheers Janette

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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 July 17 22:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Janette

Yes I think he married Violet Graham and died in 1990. But we still don't know where he was born.

Thanks for your help!
I live in New Zealand BUT am a true blue, loyal Aussie.
Bridgeman (Kent); Johnson (Cheshire); Bidgood (Wiltshire); Bridgeman,
Anger (Germany); Haddock (Ireland);
Pickeral (Staffordshire); Mueller (Germany);
Gillis/Gillies (Qld., Australia); Hirning (Germany)
Eyles and Primmer (Hampshire)

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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 July 17 23:02 BST (UK) »
If the 1990 death is him you may find more details for him on a Queens honours list if he received an MBE

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Re: Harcourt Leonard Hartnett birth!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 July 17 03:24 BST (UK) »
The NSW marriage certificate should include details of groom's place of birth and age. The registration number for his marriage to Gladys M MISDALL is 406/1924. The marriage to Violet L GRAHAM is 9002/1930. (Transcriptions are cheaper and just as good).

There are quite a few articles on Trove about H L HARTNETT, including this death notice for his first wife:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article16205767

None of the articles that I could see said anything about where he was born though, so I think a certificate would be the best bet.  ;)