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Offline Ande

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INCE family
« on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:22 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I'm trying to track down the parents and potential siblings of Amelia Collins Ince.

Here are the baptism details I have for her.
Baptism:
Name:   Amelia Collins Ince
Gender:   Female
Baptism Date:   9 Feb 1840
Baptism Place:   St. Mary-the-Virgin, Dover, Kent, England
Father:   William Collins Ince
Mother:   Jemima Ince

On the original baptism scan it states William Collins Ince is a Gunner in the Royal Army ("Gunner R.A.")

I have found Amelia in the 1841 census with her mother, Jemima, living with a family called "Rose" at St Mary, Dover, Kent. The head of the household, William Rose, is also listed as being in the Army.

I cannot find Amelia, Jemima or William Collins Ince on the 1851 census. However I have Amelia on the 1861 as a servant and by 1871 she has married into my Waters family and I know the rest from there. It's her origins that I'm interested in.

Regarding her father William, I think I have found a baptism for him. This is why I'm posting in the Cheshire forum as opposed to the Kent one.
First name(s)   William Collins
Last name   Ince
Birth year   1816
Baptism year   1816
Baptism date   06 Dec 1816
Place   Chester, St Mary-On-The-Hill
County   Cheshire
Country   England
Mother's first name(s)   -
Father's first name(s)   John
Father's last name   Ince
Record set   Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish baptisms 1538-1911


So I guess what I want to find out, if possible, is:
William on any census!
William and Jemima's marriage
Any of Amelia's siblings (though I doubt there are any)
William and Jemima's deaths
Any records of William in the army?

Thanks everyone!
JONES, HALL, CHACE, WRIGHT, CROCKER, NEPEAN, LAWRANCE, THORPE, ELLIOT, MORAN, all in South Australia. STÄRKE, SCHOLZ/SHOLZ in Prussia and South Australia. WATERS, FOWLER, INCE, MEARS, LLOYD, TRUSTER and COOPER in England (mainly Surrey). FRANKORT, LEUNISSEN, MUIJRERS, BROURERS, GORISSEN, DAMOISEAUX and LAHAYE/LAHIAJE in Limburg, Netherlands.

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Re: INCE family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:28 BST (UK) »
To start with;   
   
INCE, AMELIA  COLLINS, Mothers mn BLOWN****
GRO Reference: 1840  M Quarter in DOVER UNION  Volume 05  Page 118

Marriage;
1838   Dover, Kent, Jemima BLOWN to William INCE
(check FreeBMD for actual Reg as for some reason site not loading for me)
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: INCE family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:35 BST (UK) »
Oh, good find! Thankyou! I'll check that out.

I just found this and I wonder if it's my William? I think there's a good chance.

British Army, Worldwide Index 1841 Transcription
First name(s)   William
Last name   Ince
Sex   Male
Service number   ?
Rank   Gunner & Driver
Unit or regiment   3rd Bn. Royal Artillery
Sub unit   2nd Company
Year   1841
Remarks   -
Location   Dover
Country   GB
The National Archive reference   WO 10/1818
Record set   British Army, Worldwide Index 1841
Category   Armed forces & conflict
Subcategory   Regimental & service records
Collections from   United Kingdom, Overseas / Unknown
JONES, HALL, CHACE, WRIGHT, CROCKER, NEPEAN, LAWRANCE, THORPE, ELLIOT, MORAN, all in South Australia. STÄRKE, SCHOLZ/SHOLZ in Prussia and South Australia. WATERS, FOWLER, INCE, MEARS, LLOYD, TRUSTER and COOPER in England (mainly Surrey). FRANKORT, LEUNISSEN, MUIJRERS, BROURERS, GORISSEN, DAMOISEAUX and LAHAYE/LAHIAJE in Limburg, Netherlands.

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Re: INCE family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:48 BST (UK) »
9 April 1838 - Hougham Parish church
William Ince full age-Gunner R.A - father John Ince occ Stone Mason
Jemima Blown father Thomas Blown occ Mariner
both of the parish

Possible baptism for Jemima at St George, Deal 31 Jul 1814 - parents Thomas & Jemima. Thomas occ Pilot
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Re: INCE family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:50 BST (UK) »
Looks like Jemima remarried 1851;

1851 Census
Woolwich, Kent
John Dommett, 27,
Jemima Dommett, 36, Wife, Mar,, born Deal
Anelia June, 11****
John June, 5*****
Margret Cooley, 29
Ann Cooley, 10mths
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Re: INCE family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:53 BST (UK) »
JEMIMA Blown christened 31 July 1814, Deal, Kent, to THOMAS/JEMIMA
Oops sorry rosie had this :-[
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Re: INCE family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that, Rosie.

Trish, I think you could be right. From FreeBMD:
Marriages Mar 1851
Domitt    John        Lewisham    5   321
Ince    Jemima        Lewisham    5   321

I wonder if this means William died before 1851? Or he's out of the picture somehow.
JONES, HALL, CHACE, WRIGHT, CROCKER, NEPEAN, LAWRANCE, THORPE, ELLIOT, MORAN, all in South Australia. STÄRKE, SCHOLZ/SHOLZ in Prussia and South Australia. WATERS, FOWLER, INCE, MEARS, LLOYD, TRUSTER and COOPER in England (mainly Surrey). FRANKORT, LEUNISSEN, MUIJRERS, BROURERS, GORISSEN, DAMOISEAUX and LAHAYE/LAHIAJE in Limburg, Netherlands.

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Re: INCE family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 July 17 12:57 BST (UK) »
William's baptism

William Collins Ince
6 Dec 1816
St Mary on the Hill Chester
parents
John & Martha

John & Martha's marriage
19 Sept 1791
St marys on the Hill Chester
John Ince married Martha Collins

I also found this -may be some relation??

Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioners & Soldiers service records
John Collins Ince
service ended 1882
age 36
3rd Battery 1st Brigade N Division Royal Artillery
service no 17478

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: INCE family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 July 17 13:02 BST (UK) »
Thomas BLOWN married Jemima ROBINSON, 1 August 1813   Deal, Kent

As Suzard posted;

Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioners & Soldiers service records
John Collins Ince
service ended 1882
age 36
3rd Battery 1st Brigade N Division Royal Artillery
service no 17478

Presume this is John age 5 in 1851 Census?

OOPs didnt pick up John was born Gibraltor c 1846
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